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Old 11-15-2009, 09:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Too many certs?????

If you see a profile you are interested in on Swing Lifestyle but they have say more then five certs...does that turn you off?

Does the number of certs a person have make a difference in whether or not you contact them?

I found someone the other day with like 70++ certs and though....hmmmm...is that excessive? Then again who am I to judge what's excessive and whats not?
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Old 11-15-2009, 09:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I found someone the other day with like 70++ certs and though....hmmmm...is that excessive?
They could be club owners.


We have certified, and have been certified by couples that we haven't played with. It just means they are "real", and are genuinely interested in swinging.

EDIT: As to the original question: The number of certs (or lack thereof) doesn't really affect us either way.
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Old 11-15-2009, 10:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Too many certs?????

Just like many certs does not mean the couple has played with all, the lack of many certs does not mean the couple is not very active.

What is it about many certs that turn you off? Most any couple that has been swinging for years and years may have quite a history of play partners.

It also seems that many play partners implies bed notchers/people that will play with anyone. You can't make that assumption either. People can be selective yet still have more experiences than you can count on two hands.
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:38 AM   #4 (permalink)
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What would be the point of 70 certs?

Its more like a facebook wall at that stage.
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Old 11-16-2009, 09:21 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Just like many certs does not mean the couple has played with all, the lack of many certs does not mean the couple is not very active.

What is it about many certs that turn you off? Most any couple that has been swinging for years and years may have quite a history of play partners.

It also seems that many play partners implies bed notchers/people that will play with anyone. You can't make that assumption either. People can be selective yet still have more experiences than you can count on two hands.
I think the amount of certs in my head imlied that a person may be a "bed notchers" like you stated. You are right I really shouldnt assume that. WE did have one cert from someone we never played with so I am sure that happens more often then not.

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Old 11-16-2009, 10:37 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Default Re: Too many certs?????

Some people are "Cert Beggars" and ask you to certify them as soon as you meet which may expain why some have an unusually large number of certs. I've come across free profiles with no certs of people that we've known for years and also seen a few certified profiles that I strongly suspect are fake. I don't think much of certs and believe that a lot of people use them to find a reason NOT to meet. If they don't like something in the other profile or they met the other person or couple and don't care for them then they will never contact you. Keep in mind that everyone's definition of real is different. I don't consider anyone to be real until after I have sex with them. Other people will certify anyone that they talk on the phone with.
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We have four on Swing Lifestyle. We only played with two of those. On AFF it's one out of two.

People have different reasons for wanting or not wanting certs. Don't assume. For instance, one couple we know have frequent parties. They ask their house party guests to certify them. We were happy to do so. Doesn't mean we played with them (we didn't).

A couple with no certs could easily have a longer "history" than you might like. A couple with many might just like having a way of showing they socialize a lot.
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Default Re: Too many certs?????

We have a couple of certs, but that’s all we want. Otherwise it turns into a "who knows who you've played with" and all that becomes of that knowledge. At least in our neighborhood anyways.

But as for total number of certs and contacting...I would have second thoughts of someone with a dozen-ish certs or more. My initial thought is that they would probably appear to "Superficial" to us, or myself. That's completely my personal perception and is not based on any definitive reasoning.

It would be a consideration in the selection process for us.
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Default Re: Too many certs?????

I think there plenty of people who have too many certs, club owners and VIP's aside.

We do not have any certs and we consider ourselves pretty active. I hate to admit this because it seems petty but I make assumptions really fast when I look at who a couple has played with. Most certs will give you a clue if they actually played. I've seen certs that are just like 'Wow, what a great couple, can't wait to get back in bed with them soon.'

And the first thing I do is I look at the pictures of the 'other' couple and I make decisions about 'would I have played with them' Yes, it's childish and silly but it definitely influences our decision if we are going to reach out to them.

The certs can also reveal a pattern. If I see that they play with extremely petite women with really big boobs, then we won't reach out to them either because we may think they wouldn't be interested in my wife which has smaller breasts or I don't have ripped abs.
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Old 11-18-2009, 08:09 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I think there plenty of people who have too many certs, club owners and VIP's aside.

We do not have any certs and we consider ourselves pretty active. I hate to admit this because it seems petty but I make assumptions really fast when I look at who a couple has played with. Most certs will give you a clue if they actually played. I've seen certs that are just like 'Wow, what a great couple, can't wait to get back in bed with them soon.'

And the first thing I do is I look at the pictures of the 'other' couple and I make decisions about 'would I have played with them' Yes, it's childish and silly but it definitely influences our decision if we are going to reach out to them.

The certs can also reveal a pattern. If I see that they play with extremely petite women with really big boobs, then we won't reach out to them either because we may think they wouldn't be interested in my wife which has smaller breasts or I don't have ripped abs.
That's funny, I do the same thing..if there is a wide variety of people who have certed versus a trend in body type. Would we fit into their range of people.
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We have a couple of certs, but that’s all we want. Otherwise it turns into a "who knows who you've played with" and all that becomes of that knowledge. At least in our neighborhood anyways.

But as for total number of certs and contacting...I would have second thoughts of someone with a dozen-ish certs or more. My initial thought is that they would probably appear to "Superficial" to us, or myself. That's completely my personal perception and is not based on any definitive reasoning.

It would be a consideration in the selection process for us.
I'm really confused by the whole idea that a couple who has 12-15 (whatever) certifications is a turn off to people. I thought swinging was about finding other couples to play with. Yes i understand some just want a close couple and that's it. While we don't have certs from all, we have played with 12+ couples in less than a year (hey perhaps we are sluts). And for a small subset we've played a number of times with each couple.

I consider us very selective, we don't just find a couple and head off to play, we take the time to get to know them a bit. We've just had alot of time to partake of the lifestyle.
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We just can't have too much promiscuity in our promiscuous friends, it wouldn't be seemly.

I'm still of mixed feeling on certs in general...it's too much like having professional references on your resume for my taste. I understand that it's supposed to give you an indicator that the couple/person is real and genuine, but they're mostly going to be certified by other people that you don't know either. Quite the conundrum when you factor in that no certs could be bad, too many certs could be bad, too many certs from a "type" could be bad...damn, that sounds like a whole lot of passive drama...
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We are on these sites to find play mates and fuck, do not understand why any one would be turned off by certs. Guess there are some out their that think you can be an almost virgin or a little pregnant. Don't expect that we will be anyone elses only playmate. We already have spouses we are nuts about all we want from our play partners is hot sex and attention while we are having sex, who and what they do before and after is none of our business (unless they are hot then by all means bring them along). Come on people it's just sex, and even bad sex is better than most other things we can think of.
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Come on people it's just sex, and even bad sex is better than most other things we can think of.
As a vanilla I'd have agreed with this.

As a swinger who has HAD bad swinging sex, I'd have to say no.

There are a few encounters where I'd rather have been home playing video games or perhaps mowing the lawn if I could do it over.
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