D/D Free...what does it mean to you?

[SJK977]

Hi all! While we all know what D/D free means when posted in profiles, do people who partake in "a little weed from time to time" count as D/D free? The reason for asking is that on a few occasions, we have received communication from couples who claim that they're "not into drugs" but they use marijuana. In our opinion, any illegal drug is what is meant as part of the D/D free criteria. However, when we return our thoughts to these people, we are often chided or spoken down upon. While we are not going to change our minds based on any replies here, we would like to get a feel of what others think about this.

Thanks!

[Mr. Truelove]

D/D free confused me but I think it means Drug and Disease Free. Am I wrong?

I put it right in my profile that I do not wish to be around people that use any kind of illegal drugs. I can understand the responses you get because many think marijuana is a drug the same way they view speeding as breaking the law. And I'll agree that they are not on the same level in terms of how harmful they are to the individual. I'd just like those users to understand that some of us cannot be around any drugs for certain reasons. I do notice a trend by marijuana users don't think it's wrong for them to have it with them or to be on it around unsuspecting others. But it's illegal and disrespectful to do so.

I've seen this debate on here before and it's always pretty argumentive on both sides. Thread link

Mr. Truelove

[lovinher]

As someone who smokes on occasion I couldn't call myself drug free. I'm not happy about getting lumped in with drug abusers but the fact is it is a drug used for recreational purposes. That said, you could also call alcohol a drug, legal yes but a drug none the less. So forgetting the legalities, can you call someone who drinks on occasion drug free? Technically no, but I doubt drinkers would agree.

[S&E]

Some thought on the topic,

I think that you need to look at that phrase on a couple by couple/person by person bases. Some that post D/D free, are free of social diseases and illicit street drugs, but may use prescription drugs in lieu of other things. Illicit street drug, IV drugs, etc., are of unknown origin, have inherent risks, dependency, etc. and risk of disease.

I know a few women that will take prescription drugs like Xanax, Kolonpin, and other anti anxiety meds which are legally prescribed to them. They use them as a chill pill in lieu of drinking alcoholic beverages. One equated it to me as comparable to a couple so glasses of wine with out a hang over in the morning. She also explained that she just doesn't like to drink alcoholic beverages and has no detectable side effects from her prescribed meds. Another explained it that if she doesn’t, if she comes hard early, she’s done, when she takes her prescription, for her it is like the female Viagra, it relaxes her just enough and lets her keep going all night long. Apparently doctors prescribe frequently. One was prescribed them for fear of flying, another for panic attacks and both found other hidden benefits.

How many men are taking Viagra, whether they admit it or not. Where does that fit into the picture of "D/D Free." Neither of the aforementioned prescription meds is illegal when prescribed to the person.

Marijuana is another thing. It is illegal by its own presence. The odor gets into everything. Its effects are similar in some ways to both alcohol and other prescription meds. We must not forget that alcohol is a drug too.

I am neither endorsing it nor condoning it, but I understand it. We don't like spending time with drunks, but sometimes just one or two drinks, it just what everyone needs to relax and enjoy. Moderation is the key if any thing is used.

I'll bet that up to 50% of the "D/D Free", are disease free and in their mind and or perspective are drug free but are actually not drug free. Some people are better 100% sober/straight, and some are better a little relaxed.

Therefore, we evaluate each couple and person on an individual basis and make our decision to play from there. Personally, for us, we prefer a drink or two.

S & E

[lovinher]

With all due respect Mr. Truelove this question has nothing to with somebody having it on them in your presence or is it a question about what is right and what is wrong. I understand your point and do agree, but simply put, can a pot smoker be considered drug free? Obviously no.

[Mr. Truelove]

Originally Posted by lovinher

With all due respect Mr. Truelove this question has nothing to with somebody having it on them in your presence or is it a question about what is right and what is wrong. I understand your point and do agree, but simply put, can a pot smoker be considered drug free? Obviously no.

I agree with you lovinher that a pot smoker cannot be considered drug free. But I anticipated that people would say the opposite. Because they have in the past. People admitting it is important. I felt that the presence was related to the admission of using it. Otherwise, why would it be anyone's business?

Mr. Truelove

[SJK977]

Ok, a little clarification from our standpoint. We have no problems with any LEGAL substance, such as alcohol, cigarettes, PRESCRIPTION meds, etc. Yes, they are drugs, but so is aspirin and allergy medication...the same, maybe not, but let's not get ridiculous here. For us it's the ILLEGAL stuff. As far as diseases go, that seems pretty self-explanatory (although I thought the other part was too, so who knows!)...but for that, as most others probably are too, we're talking those little std nasties.

Thanks for your replies so far!!!

[lovinher]

Understood and a good point. I was hoping this would not turn into a right or wrong debate because then I'd have to shoot my mouth off AGAIN!

[prettylady]

I think at points this argument can get silly. What if a women takes antidepressants, what if you have a couple of beers. Why even bring these into the argument at all. These are LEGAL or PERSCRIBED.
I take a prescription for ADD, so if we want to argue that point, well hell ya I am a drug user, I can't function on an acceptable level without my meds. But that is being rediculous to even go there.
D/D means illegal drugs. Thats it, thats all, thats everything.
I don't give a flying rats ass wheather or not you agree with pot being Illegal or not. I don't want to be around illegal drugs.
I don't see anymore harm in smoking a joint then smoking a cig, but a cig is not illegal.
So fight your fight. In the end it comes down to what is or isn't legal.
Your friend,
Prettylady
ps. I am having a very difficult week, so please keep that in mind when reading my spastic remarks. It is how I feel, but I am not usually such a bitch.

[lovinher]

OUCH!

This is exactly what I was hoping wouldn't happen.

The last thing I want to do is piss off a Prettlady so I'll shut up now.

[prettylady]

Oh lovinher, you couldn't possibly piss me off.
For some reason the wrong side of the bed was on my side today.
Is chocolate a drug?? Perhaps I will go and eat my kids easter treats then come back and play nice.
Your friend,
Prettylady

[Mr. Truelove]

Originally Posted by prettylady

Oh lovinher, you couldn't possibly piss me off.
For some reason the wrong side of the bed was on my side today.
Is chocolate a drug?? Perhaps I will go and eat my kids easter treats then come back and play nice.
Your friend,
Prettylady

Eating kids easter candy...one of the joys of being a parent is eating their candy on Halloween and Easter. Now I understand that it wasn't my siblings taking my candy.

Mr. Truelove

[des1re06]

We had this question posed to use recently by a couple we met for dinner. My response was, "whatever you do on your own time is your business, but we cannot be around any illegal drugs." We prefer not to play with those under the influence, and that includes pot and also heavy drinkers. We just simply find it unattractive.

Many people won't play with us because we smoke cigarettes, and we respect that. It all boils down to preferences, which everyone is entitled to.

The disease part is self-explanatory.

Mrs. D

[wyandly]

Yeah.. I think this converastion can get pretty silly. I think it would be hard to draw the line around whats considered "ok" sustance use and whats not, in the spirit of the OP. At some point you do get into the recreational use of mj question. I like the speeding analogy. As a professional driver, a ticket is a ticket, and if I get into an accident while speeding, all the authorities (police, insurance, and employer) will considered it to have been "preventable". That says it all for me.

[Tia Vampire]

Why are all you worried about the drug usage, what about the disease? Just because someone says that they are disease free, should you just take their word for it? I don't care what someone puts in their profile. I go with my gut feeling and that is to keep a condom on and stay away from the heavy drug users. A little pot never hurt anybody. I (the female half) also smoke pot from time to time. Something like a special occasion or better put like 4 or 5 times a year. My b-day, new years, and maybe after an exam. I don't consider myself a bad person on an abuser. If asked not to smoke in front of a potencial couple, we would respect thier wishes.