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Old 07-13-2008, 10:44 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Default Re: Certifications - are we over-thinking this?

We can take 'em or leave 'em. The certs we have are all from friends, mostly giving a shout-out to us. Doesn't necessarily mean we've played with them. And if we have, so what? Almost all the couples we know go to the same meet & greet, so it's pretty obvious who knows whom. So what? If someone looking at our profile is going to dismiss us based on our certs, then it's their loss.

Do we look at certs? Yes, but mostly out of curiosity. But it doesn't make or break our decision to contact anyone. Besides, we prefer to meet people at parties or meet & greets anyway.

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Old 07-14-2008, 05:02 AM   #77 (permalink)
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If we met people at clubs, certs would be pretty much useless. But meeting people via the internet is another story. We have used certs and consider them very helpful. The best certs are ones from people who have played - the "we've met" certs don't mean much. We would never even consider giving or recieving a cert from someone we did not know very well. Why would we want to attach our profile to someone we hardly knew, and had not even played with?

Yes, we do meet people without certs, but a profile without certs tends to go on our "B-list". We may get to them, after the "A-list" prospects run out. Of course, if the "A-list" prospects don't run out, we may not. It's kinda like a profile without pics...

The impression we have is a greater percentage of couples without certs tend to be more unsure about playing, and less skilled as play partners. Great profiles with good pics and glowing certs - glowing certs from great profiles with their own glowing certs - tend to be more fun. We have had AWSOME fun with couples who don't have certs, but in the big picture, profiles with certs tend to be a better bet, especially when there is limited time available to search.
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Old 07-14-2008, 06:26 AM   #78 (permalink)
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Default Re: Certifications - are we over-thinking this?

When MrVan and I first got into the LS, we thought that the certs were important because it allowed other couples who may be looking at our profile to know whether or not we were real. We were not really using them for anything other than that. We had many times over and over again when we first got into the LS where we would run into fakes and for that reason when a cert was given by another couple for us we would accept it thinking it would help others to want to contact us.

We have come to realize that certs either way really do not matter. We still have a couple certs I believe on our profile but would have never thought that it would stop someone from contacting us. When we look at profile's these days we really do not pay attention to the certs anymore.

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Old 07-14-2008, 03:49 PM   #79 (permalink)
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I would say that certs are moderately important to us. Normally, we will look at someones pictures and profile to see if we seem compatible. Then we will look at their certs to see if they are real. I have to admit, most folks we have tried to meet on Swing Lifestyle that didn't have certs never met us, and turned out to be a waste of time. So that has had a lot to do with how we view certs. Now days, someone would really have to seem hot to us for us to put out any effort if they had no certs. Which I guess is the bottom line, if someone has certs we would be more inclined to invest the effort to meet them than someone who doesn't have certs.

As far as our certs are concerned. We find it is best to have a few good certs rather than a whole bunch of certs. We have also noticed that it seems to be important to have recent certs. So what we do is periodically go through our certs and ad a new one or two and drop some older ones. We almost never have more than about a half dozen or so. We also prefer the ones that do not include how fun we were in the sack, or any other direct confirmation that we actually had sex.
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Old 07-14-2008, 05:16 PM   #80 (permalink)
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Default Re: Certifications - are we over-thinking this?

The more I think about this, the more I think it's probably a wash.... damned if you do, damned if you don't.

On the one hand, if we don't have certs there are obviously some couples who would pass us over. On the other hand, if we do have certs there are still some couples who would pass us over because we either have too many certs, or certs from someone they don't care for. The latter I find a bit retarded, just because you and they didn't get along but we got along with them, doesn't mean that you and we won't get along.

I'm thinking we will probably stick to our original decision and feeling that we just don't like the way the whole cert process goes against the concept of discretion. If they were anonymous, it would be a totally different story, but it's just no one else's business who we've played with... and as someone else pointed out, certs between people who have only MET but not played mean little, as they really don't prove anything about whether or not the couple is who they say they are lifestyle-wise.
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Old 07-14-2008, 06:18 PM   #81 (permalink)
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This may be an option to overcome the whole cert/no cert thing:

I've noticed that some couples on Swing Lifestyle have one cert, and it is from the hosts of the club they have attended.

The cert usually says something along the lines of "This great couple attended one of our social events and they are very nice".

Very neutral certification, definitely indicates they are real (real enough to go to a club), but doesn't reveal bedroom secrets.

Just a thought.
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Old 07-14-2008, 07:42 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Default Re: Certifications - are we over-thinking this?

Interesting discussion. There is a site with a cool way of "certifying" couples. You have to send the webmaster a pic of the two of you, holding a sign saying "certify us".

It's a good thing to know if a couple is actually is in it together when they make a couple's profile, and it's good to know if they showed up at a gathering and seemed nice to the host (or one of the other attendees.)

If certs are years old, you know they have been playing for a long time. If they have recent certs, you get the idea they are active. People only post the certs they want, so you can get an idea about their involvement in the lifestyle, and how they want to be seen.

Depending on what certs say, and the people who gave them, we can learn a lot that makes us want to contact someone. For us, seeing people are certified is never a negative. We decide if we are intersted in someone by looking at their profile - not the profiles of people who certified them - but we can get an idea of the kind of people they like to play with by the certs they choose to post.

We totally agree with the idea if someone doesn't want to meet us because of who we've accepted certs from (or anything else in our profile) that's good. Just because we met someone, or if we played, we wouldn't give or accept a cert. There has to be a reason. Usually it's because we think they'd appreciate getting it.
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Old 07-14-2008, 10:43 PM   #83 (permalink)
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On the other hand, if we do have certs there are still some couples who would pass us over because we either have too many certs, or certs from someone they don't care for. The latter I find a bit retarded, just because you and they didn't get along but we got along with them, doesn't mean that you and we won't get along.
We actually thought about this a quite a bit and came to the conclusion that this was probably a good thing. The fact of the matter is, most of the folks we have actually accepted certs from are usually pretty good friends of ours. So, if a potential play partner is going to have a problem with it, it is better to get that out of the way before anything gets started, as far as we are concerned.
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:25 PM   #84 (permalink)
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I have to confess that at times I check the profiles of whoever did the certification and if those people seem like people we would definitely not be interested in, we pass over the profile.

Over all I'd say I like LL's basic certification system rather than 'what a wonderful and sexy couple' type.
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Old 07-18-2008, 07:13 PM   #85 (permalink)
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For us, certifications kind of authenticate a male that we might be interested in. We have yet to meet someone from Swing Lifestyle yet but trying. The thought is that if they have some then they may understand what we are looking for.

Just our 2 cents worth.

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Old 07-21-2008, 01:15 AM   #86 (permalink)
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Default Re: Certifications - are we over-thinking this?

We have a couple of certs and both couples we're still friendly with, one we see regularly at parties and meet & greets, so it's obvious we're friends. We're comfortable with what we have, but not particularly seeking more (and respect those who choose not to do the cert thing). By no means do we want a long laundry list of everyone who we've met or played with on our profile.
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Old 07-21-2008, 06:37 PM   #87 (permalink)
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We accept and give certifications. We accept them from whoever gives us one as long as its not crude or insinuating something that never took place. We however only give them to people that we felt like we connected with and would like to get to know better. And generally we like to keep it PG and stick to what kind of people we think they are.

We also tend to look at certs when looking at people's profiles, if they are long time members and have no certs I wonder like a lot of other people if they are legitimate or just pic collectors, or some other kind of fakes. When people have certifications they help me to get an idea of what kind of people they are and who they tend to hang with and sometimes you can glean which couples they just made an impression on and which ones they've played with and based on that, if we are their type or if they are ours. I think we are attracted to a very specific type of couple, young trendy, cool, in good shape and if we notice a theme in the type of company they keep then we can pretty much decide wether or not we think we might hit it off. All of that plays into wether or not we're interested or wether we think we'll be compatiable. Maybe we're superficial, which is fine but we know what we like and we look at the profile pics, read the profile thoroughly and look at certifications to figure out what type of people they are and who they tend to hang with. We also look at the fact that while they may have made an impression on a lot of people and received lots of certs most people only return certs to the people that they've played with or connected with in some way and those are the certs that say the most to us the ones that they've returned. You'll also notice the people who try to rack up as many certs as possible by certifying everyone they meet and only a 1/8 of those people return the certs. We think the certs say a lot....

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I'm curious about this now that you've got me thinking.

Example: A good looking couple contact us. We check out their pics, profile and then certs.

We notice that all their certs are from "perfect body" types.

This goes through my head: Why are they contacting us? We're not perfect. We immediately think we won't meet their expectations because we aren't similar to the people they've played with.

Hmmm, does anyone else do that?

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I'm curious about this now that you've got me thinking.

Example: A good looking couple contact us. We check out their pics, profile and then certs.

We notice that all their certs are from "perfect body" types.

This goes through my head: Why are they contacting us? We're not perfect. We immediately think we won't meet their expectations because we aren't similar to the people they've played with.

Hmmm, does anyone else do that?

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how about this wrench... what is to stop someone from making another account and certifying themselves? As for us we don't care about certs, we prefer word of mouth ( pun intended)

in the begining we would try to meet up, if we go stood up ya better have had a good reason ( good thing we never got stood up) we meet you, you meet us, we might have a party where more friends from each side are invited and expand the network... after all is that not the best way?
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