Straight and Bisexual Women

[mphsouthernbelle]

I have seen many topics about bi-sexuality in this forum, but I wanted to pose a question to the group, especially the women.

Just because a women may say that she is str8, In my opinion doesn't necessarly mean that she would not enjoy a women pleasuring her, it means that she may not want to return that pleasure.

Do others share this same opinion, or do most believe that you have to be Bi to enjoy another woman??

Bella

[TNT]

To me, what you described would be a passive bi-woman. A straight woman, (I would think, could be wrong on this) would not enjoy being touched by another woman.

I can however see how if she was straight and blind folded, not knowing if it was a man or woman touching her, she might enjoy it. But, there again, there is a definite difference in the feel of a man and woman, even when all that is touching you is their mouths, so I'm not sure how anyone could mistake a woman's touch for a man's.

Most bi-women, have a problem with passive bi's. They don't really like giving, unless they are going to receive at some point.

Teresa

[mphsouthernbelle]

Ok thats a good way to look at it, however I am VERY Bi and would never expect a women that I played with to return the favor if she didn't want to. Seeing the look on their faces when she is done is thanks enough.
Bella

[L&K]

well Quin is going to argue this but , S has been with one lady , this lady felt like you the pleasure she gave S was what she got off on . weather S wanted to return the favor or not was of little or no interest . i dont think this is common from what i have read but i have seen it with my own eyes , and boy what a site to see LOL .

S would still like to play in the BI area but she is not sure about returing the pleasure so she does not consider her self BI sexual but has no problem with female touch and certainly enjoys forplay short of oral sex with ladies . Given the right lady and time to know her beyond just sex im sure she will want to taste the fruits too .



M the manily half of M & S

[OhioCouple]

I personally would not enjoy giving pleasure to a non reciprocal partner, male or female. We had an experience with one couple in which the female had said she was bi. In all actuality she was straight. She didn't care who was parting her legs as long as someone was. That was a huge turn off to me as it was so obvious.

I have no problem with straight women as long as they are truthfull and up front about it. I want to know before hand tho. Why would I want to waste my time when I could give and receive pleasure with the male half and be totally satisfied?

Lori

[Brian and Jo]

I always regarded myself as straight with no interest in having a sexual encounter with another woman until, many years ago, the female half of the couple Brian and I were swinging with went down on me. The pleasure she gave me was exquisite and I felt that I had to reciprocate. I found that I enjoyed pleasing her and ever since that time I have played both bi- and hetero-style. We have had many FMF threesomes and bi-play is a normal part of the scene when we are playing within our group of regular swinging couples. I guess I had hidden my bisexual tendencies for many years because I now regard myself as fully bisexual and enjoy both giving and receiving very much.

Jo

[Quin]

There are plenty of women out there who will allow another woman to *pleasure* them....they'd also let a dog if the dog is trained well to perform oral on them. Some women just don't care as long as they get off. That is selfish. And yes, most women who claim their straight or even bi that have no intention of reciprocating, are selfish and users. They use people to reach their satisfaction without no concern or worries on if the other party is satisfied.

I am a bi-sexual female and have been for since I was 18 (I'm not 42) and I have been swinging since I was around 19. When a woman says she is bi-sexual that should mean that when she indulges in activities of a sexual nature with a woman, she should also be willing to please as well as be pleased and that is what I perceive when a man/woman/couple say a female is bi-sexual.

This is beating a dead horse. If you want to continue being used and taken advantage of (and that's exactly what they're doing), go right ahead that's on you, because that is exactly what is happening especially now when men are so hip on seeing their wives get oral from another woman. You're young, in time you'll see the light. Been there, done that. Tired old topic.

Quin

[Quin]

Most bi-women, have a problem with passive bi's. They don't really like giving, unless they are going to receive at some point.

That's not necessarily true. What bi-women don't like is being used and being lied to. And right now, that's more the case than isn't.

Quin

[Quin]

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Seeing the look on their faces when she is done is thanks enough.

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When she's done what? She's done nothing more than spread her thighs. Any dog could do to her what you have done and the outcome be the exact same. And who's their?

Quin

[Chicup]

Quin you seem very bitter about this. Some people are not selfish lovers themselves and enjoy pleasuring others more then getting it themselves.

My wife enjoys having women play with her.
She doesn't think she will enjoy giving oral back.

She is bi, and yes she is selfish. Being selfish does not make her not bi.

And no she wouldn't let a dog do her.

[mphsouthernbelle]

I take offense to you saying that I am being used. I know what I enjoy and I know when I am being used. I play with a great couple who are both Srt8, and I know that she won't ever return the favor and I a perfectly fine with that. She is honest about her Str8ness, and never pretends that she is Bi. She does not just let anyone or thing play with her. In fact I am one of the very few women that she has ever been with. What the difference in what I do and a man that enjoys Oral Sex and doesn't expect a return?? There are people out there like that. Personally I think that it is selfish to expect a return. Do you expect a gift from your neighbor when you give them their mail that was in your mailbox? Sex is supposed to be enjoyed not expected.

Belle

[Quin]

Originally posted by mphsouthernbelle:
I take offense to you saying that I am being used. I know what I enjoy and I know when I am being used. I play with a great couple who are both Srt8, and I know that she won't ever return the favor and I a perfectly fine with that. She is honest about her Str8ness, and never pretends that she is Bi. She does not just let anyone or thing play with her. In fact I am one of the very few women that she has ever been with. What the difference in what I do and a man that enjoys Oral Sex and doesn't expect a return?? There are people out there like that. Personally I think that it is selfish to expect a return. Do you expect a gift from your neighbor when you give them their mail that was in your mailbox? Sex is supposed to be enjoyed not expected.

Belle

You obviously didn't read ALL my posts or you would have read where I said when TWO women come together to indulge in bi-sexual sex, it is to be ASSUMED by both parties that giving and receiving will take place. I expect nothing from anyone. I do assume that if I play with someone that some type of play will be initiated by the other party. I still stand on the statement of being used. It happens every day and don't be so pollyanna-ish as to think that a couple won't use you to reach their own agenda, seeing her get off while receiving oral sex from another female. People are deceptive and people lie about sex.

I'm still waiting to read just exactly what the woman has *done* and who *their* is.

Quin

[Quin]

Originally posted by Chicup:
Quin you seem very bitter about this. Some people are not selfish lovers themselves and enjoy pleasuring others more then getting it themselves.

My wife enjoys having women play with her.
She doesn't think she will enjoy giving oral back.

She is bi, and yes she is selfish. Being selfish does not make her not bi.

And no she wouldn't let a dog do her.

Oh and you're insinuating that I am a selfish lover? Sorry, bucky, but I'm there for the same reason everyone else is...to have fun giving and receiving. I'm not bitter, I just hate liars and people who twist things to get what THEY want without any regard to anyone else and people who use other people. Example: A couple who claim the female of the couple is bi-sexual when, in fact, she wouldn't lick pussy if her life depended upon it. And these people are running rampant right now and have been for a few years.

No your wife is not bi-sexual. When she licks pussy, then she can claim being bi-sexual. What she is, is a woman who will allow a woman to perform oral sex on her, that's it. Bamm. No more, no less. And to represent her as bi-sexual is a downright lie. When someone tells another bi-sexual female such as my self that their wife or they are bi-sexual...the truly bi-sexual comes to the mindset that the other woman is going to FULLY participate and both women are on equal playing field. That's NOT the case with your wife. You're misleading women into thinking it's an even playing field and that your wife will FULLY participate and the fact is, she won't.

Why is this concept so hard to grasp?? It's very elementary, but people have to lie and twist the truth and use people. Thank GOD all those within my swinging circle are good honest people who know exactly what their sexual orientation is.

Quin

[mphsouthernbelle]

When it comes to Bi-sexuality and women, things become complicated because most women are afraid of their sexuality, even women in this lifestyle. Even in this sexually drive world, women are afraid to face themselves as a sexual being, and to admit that they might enjoy being with a women is something that most don't wanna think about. Women are stuck on apperances and in their minds being Bi-sexual or being a swinger automaticly makes you a slut and thats not something that they want to be. A women decides that she wants to try sex with another woman. It's easier for her to say to someone, "I'm Bi lets play" than it is to say "I have never been with a women and I wanna try it with you to see if I enjoy it." Just like you are probalby not gonna find a girl that will admit to her boyfriend that she is a virgin. As for women that say they are Bi and don't wanna go down on a woman thats a differnt story. It's not really that they are being selfish, it's that they are afraid that they won't do it right. They are afraid to ask how or what to do, because they think that as a woman I should know how to pleasure a woman.

I enjoy all aspects of women and men, and I know what turns me on and gets me off, and going down on a women gets me off. If that means that some of the swingers in my circle are using me, well then they can go right ahead, because I got my cookies right along with them.

Belle

[ciscosv]

I know that there are women out there that are content with giving an oral massage to women and not expecting the same in return. I will side with Quin on one thing here. A woman should be ready to go both ways if she advertises herself as a "bi" female. The funny thing is that my wife does not consider herself bi or straight and she has played with a few ladies both ways. When we first started this, we had an ad on AFF that said she would be bi with the right woman which meant if your lady played with ladies then so would she otherwise, dont expect anything. (if that made sense)