The Second "D" word

muffinkm · 07-02-2003, 01:07 PM

When people say they are D&D free I assume they mean disease and drug. I further assume they are referring to illegal drugs. Do they mean any illegal drugs or just the injectable variety. Is there a general consensus against marijuana? What about ecstacy? It is supposed to increase tactile stimulation and empathy. Can anyone confirm this? ..or is it just for dancing?

bccpl77 · 07-02-2003, 01:47 PM

I would like to hear others thoughts on this as well. I consider myself D&D free although i smoke the odd joint in social situations. I can confirm the effects of ecstacy although i havent done any drugs harder than marijuana since i was a teenager. I would like to try ecstacy again sometime in a swinging situation, but that would be many years down the road, after there is no prospect of having any more children. Anyways i look forward to hearing others thoughts on this.

windsor4fun2 · 07-02-2003, 02:03 PM

I have always assumed it referred more to intravenous drug use due to the higher historical probability of the person having a disease from shared needles. Mild recreational drug use has never been an issue with us but we aren't interested in play with heavy users even if it only marijuana. In those cases there usually are other personality differences that cause not to click anyways.

Jesse

naughty A · 07-02-2003, 02:34 PM

I assume it means DRUG free...

I wouldn't worry about someone who smoked the odd joint in their OWN home... but I don't want someone doing Coke in MY HOUSE...

or ecstacy... but hey ... I'm a bit of a prude about drugs I guess.

windsor4fun2 · 07-02-2003, 03:17 PM

I think someone doing drugs in your home is a whole different issue, whether it is a joint or coke. If someone started to do either without asking us first, they would be gone pretty quick. It is only common courtesy to check with the hosts.

Jesse

MassageCouple69 · 07-02-2003, 03:29 PM

Yea, we smoke the occasional joint, but if someone started one up in my house without asking me, I would be offended, and would not invite them back over. I have no problem with marijuana, but anything harder needs to be left to the privacy of their own home or with others that do the same. Unless smoking is a common ground that is mutually agreed upon (brought up before, and both parties are interested) I think it should just be left out.
I haven't really conducted a poll, but I have found that more people than you would suspect smoke a joint or two now and again in the right situation. The more outgoing the person (i.e. sexually liberated people), the greater the chance. I wouldn't bring it up though unless I really thought that they partake, it just creates unneeded tension.
All that said, great fun when included though!!

**Alura** · 07-02-2003, 03:36 PM

We don't consider tobacco, alcohol nor marijuana to be included in "D&D Free" since none of the three increase the risks of catching an STD. To us, that's the only reason to mention "D&D Free."

We'd get really upset if someone fired up a joint or a cigarette in our house without asking first. As it is, smokers go to the outdoor patio or veranda to light up. We have never had to ask.

We don't know anything about ecstacy. If any hard drugs, including cocaine, were brought out in our house, the guests would be asked to leave.

Alura

twopeople2 · 07-02-2003, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by naughty A
I assume it means DRUG free...

I wouldn't worry about someone who smoked the odd joint in their OWN home... but I don't want someone doing Coke in MY HOUSE...

or ecstacy... but hey ... I'm a bit of a prude about drugs I guess.

I guess I'm a prude about drugs too. I almost fell out of my chair when I read someone's profile and it said they smoked weed. What you do in the privacy of your home is definitely your person. I just wouldn't want to be out with someone who's carrying it around. Harmless as a little may be, it's still illegal.

J & K · 07-02-2003, 04:18 PM

We are D/D free and the second "D" in our book means any drug that can get you jail time. You do a drug that the police say is "hand Cuff" time then stay away from us!!!! Now being drunk is different since you can't go to jail unless you get caught driving or looking like an ass in public. First "D" means to us---STD free.

Flori_DAMAN · 07-02-2003, 06:53 PM

If I smoked pot, which I am not saying either way, I would not put D and D free in my add.

I would screen upon discussing it with them though.

Now, if I smoked pot but it wasn't necessary to do regularly I would respond to someone that put D and d free in their add.

I would just plan on not smoking any with them.

Exctasy is a narcotic that is comparable to crack cocaine. That isn't even in my ball park. People have no idea not only on the horrible risk, but the legal ramifications. IT is a schedule 1 narcotic...just like heroin or crack...of course Pot is too, but that is nothing short of ridiculous in my book.

John

07-02-2003, 07:36 PM

Actually, neither ecstacy nor cocaine are narcotics—both are stimulants. Crack cocaine is extremely dangerous and addictive, but ecstacy is considered comparatively safe. Myself, I've never done either and dont plan to.

St. Augustine · 07-02-2003, 07:46 PM

(Cathy)

Not sure why you would think ecstacy was comparatively safe with all the deaths that are related to this drug. It is not a safe drug to use and can cause serious harm to the taker.

I'm also in the prude category when it comes to drugs and use of drugs. Probably because I had an older brother that was a drug user and saw the harm and ill effects it causes first hand. It sure kept me away from wanting to try drugs at all.

I always assumed that an ad that stated D&D free meant drug and disease free... I'm probably way off the mark tho.

LOL

Vjklander · 07-02-2003, 08:02 PM

I read it as Drug and Disease free. That is to say, there is no charge for the drugs or diseases.
j/k
No communicable diseases of any kind, and no illegal drugs. That is especially important in this area where just about everyone has piss tests or clearances to worry about.
In the general scheme of things, getting a bit of a buzz from red wine does all I ever need. My brain is bizarre enough without adding chemicals.
J

hfire269 · 07-02-2003, 10:04 PM

We take it as DRUG FREE. All drugs that are illegal. We both drink and he smokes but thats it. Since he has his CDL we dont even allow drugs on our protery and when we are at friends houses and they light up we leave the room or they go to another room. We arent against it. its everyones choice.
hifre269

Flori_DAMAN · 07-02-2003, 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by Seymore
Actually, neither ecstacy nor cocaine are narcotics—both are stimulants. Crack cocaine is extremely dangerous and addictive, but ecstacy is considered comparatively safe. Myself, I've never done either and dont plan to.

Narcotics are indeed depressants. Ecstacy is not considered comparatively save when compared to alcohol, or powdered cocaine though. I have really researched this subject and read some pretty staggering facts about what it does to yur body. It is really not comparatively safe at all. I would recommend that people just stay away from it. Cocaine was in the same category when I was younger. I have seen many many people totally lose their lives to cocaine. They died, they lost kids, jobs, material things, and would go to any lenght to get some more. The common belief was that it isnt addicting though....well it most certainly is....just like alcohol and ecstasy. If it makes your dopamine level go up, which it does its addicting.

John

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07-02-2003, 01:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
muffinkm Here to Stay Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 14 Location: Georgia Status: couple	The Second "D" word When people say they are D&D free I assume they mean disease and drug. I further assume they are referring to illegal drugs. Do they mean any illegal drugs or just the injectable variety. Is there a general consensus against marijuana? What about ecstacy? It is supposed to increase tactile stimulation and empathy. Can anyone confirm this? ..or is it just for dancing?
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07-02-2003, 02:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
naughty A Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 997 Location: windsor ontario Status: couple - female half	I assume it means DRUG free... I wouldn't worry about someone who smoked the odd joint in their OWN home... but I don't want someone doing Coke in MY HOUSE... or ecstacy... but hey ... I'm a bit of a prude about drugs I guess.
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07-02-2003, 07:36 PM	#11 (permalink)
Seymore Guest Posts: n/a	Actually, neither ecstacy nor cocaine are narcotics—both are stimulants. Crack cocaine is extremely dangerous and addictive, but ecstacy is considered comparatively safe. Myself, I've never done either and dont plan to.
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07-02-2003, 07:46 PM	#12 (permalink)
St. Augustine Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 266 Location: St. Augustine, FL Status: Couple	(Cathy) Not sure why you would think ecstacy was comparatively safe with all the deaths that are related to this drug. It is not a safe drug to use and can cause serious harm to the taker. I'm also in the prude category when it comes to drugs and use of drugs. Probably because I had an older brother that was a drug user and saw the harm and ill effects it causes first hand. It sure kept me away from wanting to try drugs at all. I always assumed that an ad that stated D&D free meant drug and disease free... I'm probably way off the mark tho. LOL
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07-02-2003, 01:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
bccpl77 Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 235 Location: british columbia Status: couple	I would like to hear others thoughts on this as well. I consider myself D&D free although i smoke the odd joint in social situations. I can confirm the effects of ecstacy although i havent done any drugs harder than marijuana since i was a teenager. I would like to try ecstacy again sometime in a swinging situation, but that would be many years down the road, after there is no prospect of having any more children. Anyways i look forward to hearing others thoughts on this.

07-02-2003, 02:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
windsor4fun2 Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 383 Location: Windsor, Ontario Status: M half of Couple Swing Lifestyle Name:sjjesse2	I have always assumed it referred more to intravenous drug use due to the higher historical probability of the person having a disease from shared needles. Mild recreational drug use has never been an issue with us but we aren't interested in play with heavy users even if it only marijuana. In those cases there usually are other personality differences that cause not to click anyways. Jesse

07-02-2003, 03:17 PM	#5 (permalink)
windsor4fun2 Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 383 Location: Windsor, Ontario Status: M half of Couple Swing Lifestyle Name:sjjesse2	I think someone doing drugs in your home is a whole different issue, whether it is a joint or coke. If someone started to do either without asking us first, they would be gone pretty quick. It is only common courtesy to check with the hosts. Jesse

07-02-2003, 03:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
MassageCouple69 Active Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 33 Location: Beaverton, OR Status: Couple	Yea, we smoke the occasional joint, but if someone started one up in my house without asking me, I would be offended, and would not invite them back over. I have no problem with marijuana, but anything harder needs to be left to the privacy of their own home or with others that do the same. Unless smoking is a common ground that is mutually agreed upon (brought up before, and both parties are interested) I think it should just be left out. I haven't really conducted a poll, but I have found that more people than you would suspect smoke a joint or two now and again in the right situation. The more outgoing the person (i.e. sexually liberated people), the greater the chance. I wouldn't bring it up though unless I really thought that they partake, it just creates unneeded tension. All that said, great fun when included though!!

07-02-2003, 03:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
Alura Just a hick Okie Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,135 Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma Status: Widower	We don't consider tobacco, alcohol nor marijuana to be included in "D&D Free" since none of the three increase the risks of catching an STD. To us, that's the only reason to mention "D&D Free." We'd get really upset if someone fired up a joint or a cigarette in our house without asking first. As it is, smokers go to the outdoor patio or veranda to light up. We have never had to ask. We don't know anything about ecstacy. If any hard drugs, including cocaine, were brought out in our house, the guests would be asked to leave. Alura

07-02-2003, 04:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
J & K Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 192 Location: Middle GA Status: Couple Swing Lifestyle Name:OKC_CPL	We are D/D free and the second "D" in our book means any drug that can get you jail time. You do a drug that the police say is "hand Cuff" time then stay away from us!!!! Now being drunk is different since you can't go to jail unless you get caught driving or looking like an ass in public. First "D" means to us---STD free.

07-02-2003, 06:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
Flori_DAMAN Previously of MichiganCouple Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 2,100 Location: Vero Beach Florida Status: Single Male	If I smoked pot, which I am not saying either way, I would not put D and D free in my add. I would screen upon discussing it with them though. Now, if I smoked pot but it wasn't necessary to do regularly I would respond to someone that put D and d free in their add. I would just plan on not smoking any with them. Exctasy is a narcotic that is comparable to crack cocaine. That isn't even in my ball park. People have no idea not only on the horrible risk, but the legal ramifications. IT is a schedule 1 narcotic...just like heroin or crack...of course Pot is too, but that is nothing short of ridiculous in my book. John

07-02-2003, 08:02 PM	#13 (permalink)
Vjklander Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 834 Location: VA Status: Couple, Straight M, BiFem Swing Lifestyle Name:Vjklander	I read it as Drug and Disease free. That is to say, there is no charge for the drugs or diseases. j/k No communicable diseases of any kind, and no illegal drugs. That is especially important in this area where just about everyone has piss tests or clearances to worry about. In the general scheme of things, getting a bit of a buzz from red wine does all I ever need. My brain is bizarre enough without adding chemicals. J

07-02-2003, 10:04 PM	#14 (permalink)
hfire269 Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 264 Location: Mount Wolf, PA Status: Married Couple Swing Lifestyle Name:hfire269	We take it as DRUG FREE. All drugs that are illegal. We both drink and he smokes but thats it. Since he has his CDL we dont even allow drugs on our protery and when we are at friends houses and they light up we leave the room or they go to another room. We arent against it. its everyones choice. hifre269

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