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Drama & Games (of the Mind) Drama and head games seem to be two of the biggest complaints swingers have about other swingers.

Should we give these people another chance?

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Old 01-15-2006, 12:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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There is a couple that we have known for several months, have gotten along with well (except for one incident described below), hooked up with several times and generally are happy to know. When we hook up with these people the sessions usually last for several hours and are quite compatible sexually.

The problems are as follows:

We had an incident with them during the summer that made C and I both quite uncomfortable. We were hanging out with them in a vanilla situation in public when the other girl got really liquored up and became verbally abusive with a service employee who was taking care of us. When her guy checked her and I agreed with him (trust me, her behavior was THAT bad), she got all silent and sort of spoiled the day after that with her attitude.

After we went our separate ways and some time passed we decided to just let it go figuring it wasn't such a big deal. We hadn't hooked up with them since then anyways due to busy schedules until last week...

She calls me last weekend asking what we were doing that Saturday and wondering if we wanted to hook up (like you even need to ask us that!). We agreed they would come over to our place at 5 the next day. The next day rolls around at 5, no sign of them. 6 oclock, no sign of them either. I called the other guy's phone (C and I have sort of decided at this point that he is the one with his head screwed on straight) and he tells me that his girl was giving him "some bullshit" and he took off to go hang with his buddy for a while. Apparently they got into a fight over some minor nonsense. I asked, "So I guess we aren't on tonight then?" to which he told me he thought his girl was supposed to call us - which she didn't. I called her and got her voicemail. By this point it was already 6:30 so C and I just said "fuck it" and went about our evening without them.

I got a call from the other girl at about 7:30 that I let voice mail pick up saying her man just got home and was showered and to call them if we weren't busy. We didn't call back. In short, they were supposed to come at 5 but didn't so much as call to even let us know they weren't going to make it. When I called her to find out what was going on, she couldn't even answer the call. Rude, rude, rude. This coupled with the incident this summer really makes us wonder if we should even bother with these people anymore since drama and uncertainty seem to really be showing themselves with them.

What do you guys think?
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Old 01-15-2006, 12:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Looks like LOTS of drama.

We would pull back, definitely. The first situation could be gotten over as just a bad time, but when the other one happened.... nope, better let them go.
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My two cents....have you gotten to like them as firiends outside of sex? YOu mentioned the dinner thing so my conclusion is perhaps yes and it was not a close friendship. Our phiiosophy is that we do not see ourselves getting intimate with anyone we could not be vanilla firends witih first.
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Old 01-15-2006, 12:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'd say that girl comes loaded with her own drama... avoid. That was just plain rude of her to not even call. If you were dating someone and they did that to you, you wouldn't give them a second chance (unless they had a really good excuse for why they didn't call and were 2+ hours late), so why would you do it in swinging?
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I agree with the above posters. They sound like they have too much internal drama, we wouldn't be interested in seeing them anymore after events like that.
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Old 01-15-2006, 02:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Dito to everything that's been said. Way too much drama here. Sounds like they have issues as a couple and that spills over into their other relationships.

We had a couple do this to us. We played a couple of times and had set up another night for them to come to our house. He ended up having to work and she was suppose to call and let us know. Well when they didn't show up we called and found out she forgot to call us. She said he would be so mad at her because she basically caused them to stand us up. Apparently she has a problem with that kind of stuff.

I'm sorry it is just rude not to keep your committments or to call and explain why you can't. I would back away from them and move on to someone else, doesn't sound like it is worth your time.

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Why has no one mentioned bad manners,rude,inconsiderate?

They would not get one more minute of my time.
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Don't bother with them. They are a train wreck about to happen and you don't want to be caught-up in the carnage.

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If it was us, we'd be done with them. We would never think of not calling if something interrupted our plans with another couple Why put up with it from others.

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After we went our separate ways and some time passed we decided to just let it go figuring it wasn't such a big deal. We hadn't hooked up with them since then anyways due to busy schedules until last week...
Here's another "back away" vote, and also a sympathetic "been there." We experienced some early weirdness from a couple that we'd otherwise liked. It rubbed us the wrong way, but we thought... "they're fun, they seem really great, maybe this was a one-off, let's give them the benefit of the doubt." Then they "took a break" to "work on their own marriage" so we figured, this is a sign, we don't need this, we dodged a bullet, moving on.

Then, after not hearing from Drama Couple for several weeks, we got the same kind of last-minute call inviting us to a house party; we thought, "well, we'll give 'em one last chance." We didn't know anyone else but the original couple, and (surprise surprise) it was a huge ambush of drama... people had been lied to about relationships and past histories, some couples had been told one thing and others another, and we basically got totally used.

Lesson learned: fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Always listen to your intuition when people in the lifestyle seem sketchy. Someone else will always come along and the drama is just not worth it.
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Dito it sounds like way too much drama for us.
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