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| Registered Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9 Location: Corpus Christi Status: Couple
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We have used Swing Lifestyle for about 9 months, with virtually NO luck. We have met one single guy, and that's it. We know we are a fun, attractive couple, we hear that all the time, but it seems like nobody, and I do mean nobody, manages to stay interested long enough to meet us. We email, send pictures, hear lots of "we are VERY interested", then never hear from them again... "We'll send our pictures tomorrow" Yeah, right. "Lets meet this weekend, we'll email later with our ph#", not so far. We would really love some advice on this matter, because we just can't understand why we're not having better luck on Swing Lifestyle. There are tons of couples in our area, and virtually all of them have expressed interest in meeting us, but we never hear anything from anyone anymore. We almost feel as if we've been secretly blacklisted or something. Some couples say they want to "take it slow", so we try to exchange a few emails, and they seem to lose interest. Some couples want to hook up right away, and if we're not available the first time they request our company, we never hear from them again. Now, I do understand that there is a certain amount of etiquette expected during these email exchanges, but having spent the better part of three years prior to my current commitment dating online, quite sucessfully too, I think I've been avoiding any major pitfalls. Is it our ad? Our pictures? Has anyone else experienced anything like what we are experiencing? I have heard that there are a great many "fakes" and "dabblers" on dating sites, but could there really be all that many? Anyway, we are sxycrpscpl on Swing Lifestyle... Check it out, and any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks everyone, B&J |
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| Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,185 Location: Ennis, Texas Status: Couple
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I looked at your ad and there were a couple of things that I noticed. I showed the profile to Mrs Fun and she picked the same three things out immediately. There are no face pics this is the first and biggest things. People that swing in general are more attuned to the whole person rather than just T&A and a bit of D here and there. When we look at profiles we look for smiling people, laughing people, people that look like they are fum with their clothes ON. An other thing we noticed is your ages, you are on the young side for entering swingers. This isn't to make a judgement call, but the demographic is closer to 30 or so for the majority of swingers starting out. Don't put yourselves on the shelf, but this may be a factor that is partially responsible for holding you back. The last factor is that Mr is bi-curious, while bi-curiosity is welcomed by most in females, in males it is generally not. I ran a quick survey, (non scientific of course), among the males of couples that we play with and are in phone contact with, and asked. "Would you play with a couple where the male is bi-curious, with the understanding that there would be no male/male contact"? They all answered no, with the explanations ranging from: "I couldn't handle knowing" to "It would make me too self conscious". |
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| Registered Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9 Location: Corpus Christi Status: Couple
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Interesting... We do make a face pic available to anyone who shows interest, but had kept it off of our main page for reasons of privacy... Maybe we should try putting it up. as for our age, are you saying that the 30-somethings don't want to play with us 20-somethings? That seems odd, one would think that youth would be appreciated for its advantages and especially its novelty in this lifestyle. Ok, we might have to change the bi-curious part of our profile. We have had it up thus far as something of a moral stand, to protest the hypocrisy in the lifestyle that says a bi-female is normal and beautiful, while a bi-male is somehow wrong and deviant. Besides, you'd be amazed (or maybe you wouldn't) at the number of apparently str8 men more than happy to explore that side of their sexuality at the first possible opportunity. Yeah, I know, I know... That subject is a whole other thread, been there read that... Ok, I do appreicate your critique of our profile, and I will make some changes accordingly... But I am still left wondering why we would have had so many contacts that were initially so enthusiastic, only to have them peter out after a couple of emails. Is this common? Anyway, thanks! |
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| Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,619 Location: Ohio Status: Married Female
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A few thoughts here... well some guesses. First off, I am unfamiliar with the ins and outs of Swing Lifestyle, but I have signed up for it at least 1/2 dozen times just to read someones profile for here (and I've done it because I just can't remember what the last one was in order to gain access). Which in essence means that I have 6 profiles floating around in cyberland for there. Your first problem may stem with the fact that there are a whole lot of people that just sign up to read profiles and view pictures and really have no intention of ever meeting with someone. There are many, of what I like to call, 'arm chair masturbators'. We have been members of two other sites and really had no success with the first one, but have had tremendous success with the last one. What I have come to learn is that it seems certain sites are more popular with specific areas. While the first one didn't work well for us (most of it's members lived way north) the second offered a higher concentration of people in our local area. You may want to check out another site in which to place your ad. I couldn't tell by looking at your ad, whether or not you are a paying member (as I don't know the in's and out's of Swing Lifestyle), but for us, if you aren't a paying member and you contact us, etc, we sluff it off. To us that means you aren't serious. As for the content of your profile, I think it looks fine and is enticing. However, as Fun_Pair touched on, there are a couple of things that are going to be passed on by, by the serious seekers. Age is going to be one. For the most part swingers are in the mid 30ish and up range. Many folks don't wanna play with someone in their own kids range. Secondly the bi-male part. That scares the bejeebers out of even those that 'secretly' would want to explore it. The stigma of bi-male sexuality is just too strong and hopefully one day it can become as acceptable as female bi-sexuality. I don't forsee that happening in the near future though.... ![]() And last but not least, it takes time and for some people years to find someone that they feel compatible enough with to share their intimate selves. It is sort of like buying a car. (my analagoy). If you just want something to get you to and from work, you'll take the first best thing you can find. If you are looking for something to provide you with comfort, reliablity, you'll shop around for months and scrutinize many makes and models before making your final decision. |
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| Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 154 Location: Elkhart, IN Status: Married Couple-female half
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We have the same problem!! We are an attractive, young (27 and 31) couple... we just haven't had the responses that I wish we did. I have been wondering about the exact things that you posted... why aren't people interested? We really want to get into this lifestyle, and have yet to have our first experience. I keep thinking that maybe I am violating some unknown swinger etiquette when I talk with people via e-mail, but I really don't think I am. I think that bottom line is, it is simply a hard thing to get into. Maybe other people are afraid to try being with us because we are "newbies". I 've seen that a few times in different ads: "We don't want to train newbies". I think that is a little unfair, since at some point or another EVERYONE has to begin somewhere. We are going to be persistent though. We know that we have alot to offer to other couples. We also know that we are going to love the lifestyle. We just have to get our foot in the door. So anyway, my advice is to keep trying! We're certainly going to! Have a great day! SARA |
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| Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 197 Location: Laurinburg, NC Status: Single Male Swing Lifestyle Name:ATAK
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I decided to join Swing Lifestyle months ago as a free member and did so because I liked the format of the site and the ability to contact people even at the free level. I have since become a lifetime member of the site. I have only met face to face with one other person from the Swing Lifestyle site, though I've been able to meet people from past places I've lived and struck up friendships with them. (Who knows, I may go back to visit sometime) I think the comment about locale is dead on, different sites will have a variety of locations, some local, some not. I've located probably 3-4 couples in my area, all of whom do not wish to include single men. In all honesty, I've had more success in meeting people in the lifestyle on Yahoo than anywhere else at this point. I'm not talking about Yahoo chat. I don't go in there, except to sing sometimes, but responses from my Yahoo profile have yielded several unsolicited responses from singles and couples looking to add a single male to their experiences. I am currently in the planning stages with a very nice couple from Canada, who plan a trip to my area this year, and I've been contacted by at least 3-4 single females, some of whom I've already met face to face. I try to keep in contact with everyone I meet in the local area, whether they decide to include single men or not, I like knowing where everyone is, in case a local lifestyle event comes up, I can make sure everyone knows about it and has the opportunity to go if they choose to. But as far as Swing Lifestyle ads go, I'm not sure what the "magic" ad is or if anyone has it. |
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| Only slightly cracked... Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 7,071 Location: Seattle Status: Married Couple
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First, I want to say that I agree with the specific advice that everyone's given here about your ad. I think a few changes might help your chances a bit. And, we absolutely know what you mean about the contacts that sort of 'dry up'. We've been contacted numerous times by real sounding people, only to have our response ignored. I can only guess that some jokers out there enjoy jerking people's chains. We have not had much success in actually meeting people via Swing Lifestyle or Swappernet and I'm beginning to wonder whether 90+% are just voyeurs, posers or, like Mrs. O says so well, 'armchair masturbationists'. We're not expecting much anymore, but to be honest, we've been 'passive only' and haven't contacted anyone ourselves. We're talking about doing that, to give the ad sites one last chance, and who knows, maybe our luck will change. BTW, y'all can check us out on Swing Lifestyle (funcouplecmh) and critique or ad if you like. Please. ![]() I woudn't feel so bad. You're an attractive couple (but I agree, seeing your faces would be nice too) and I'm sure that with patience things will work out. In the meantime, hang out here with the rest of us. -B |
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| Registered Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9 Location: Corpus Christi Status: Couple
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Ok, changes have been made. I think you can see our non-nude face pic as our default pic now. Tell us, would YOU be scared away by these faces? And all biM references have been taken out, so as not to scare off the homophobes. Just kidding, I understand where those guys are coming from, there was a time in my life when I felt the same way. Anyway, hopefully this will help our results some.As for your profile, BradAndJanet , I thought it was pretty damn good. Very clear and specific about your expectations and limits, very specific about your interests, lots of good photos... I can't see why you would be having the same problems we are. But it does make us feel better to see that our experiences with this site aren't entirely unique. I guess we'll just keep picking through the fakes till we find the right couple. BTW~ ATAK, is there something in particular you do to make your yahoo profile more visible to those in the lifestyle? |
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| Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,185 Location: Ennis, Texas Status: Couple
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It looks a LOT better. Nothing says fun like smiling people. You are a very attractive couple. Too bad we have kids your age.......
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| Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 834 Location: VA Status: Couple, Straight M, BiFem Swing Lifestyle Name:Vjklander
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sxycrpscpl, you guys look great !! We have met several couples on Swing Lifestyle with great results, and a single female. We have met one single male and that was fun, but several other single males have been no shows. Oh well. We also have a girl friend from r/l that we play with who is younger than our oldest son. And a single male friend who is younger than our oldest also. Age really shouldn't be a big deal. This teaching business is highly overrated. Geez, it's sex, not brain surgery!! I think sxycrpscpl needs a road trip. We would be happy to meet with them, maybe catch an Ozzfest or Disturbed concert too. J |
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| Swingers Board Addict | We have usedSLS for about 9 months, with virtually NO luck. We have met one single guy, and that's it. We know we are a fun, attractive couple, we hear that all the time, but it seems like nobody, and I do mean nobody, manages to stay interested long enough to meet us. We email, send pictures, hear lots of "we are VERY interested", then never hear from them again... "We'll send our pictures tomorrow" Yeah, right. "Lets meet this weekend, we'll email later with our ph#", not so far. We can relate 100%!!! Bunch of FAKES out there or they talk like vet. swingers and chicken out at the end. We won't give up!!! |
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| Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,619 Location: Ohio Status: Married Female
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Wow! Sexycorpus! I like the changes! Ya'll sure are an attractive couple! If the site has serious swingers in your area, I just can't see where you would have problems at all. Having your smiling faces front and center, I think was an excellent change. Also the changes in your profile hint that you are open to all in terms of sexuality, but don't blatently say so, as it did prior. If this doesn't bring in some serious inquiries then I would suggest looking at other sites if that is how you wish to persue meeting other couples. BTW, have you tried clubs or do you have any close to you? (just curious) And to note, this last time I signed us up on Swing Lifestyle (which I wrote down all the info so I wouldn't forget) we had 4 messages all from the same person in Florida. We live in Ohio......now what are the chances of us being in Florida or they being up here? Slim to none, but nonetheless just another person that is out scouting the new sign ons and seeking pictures. Weeding through the phonies is just part of the process. |
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__________________ Remember that human beings are complicated creatures. We like our bedtime routines but dislike routine in our bed times. - Sallie Foley, M.S.W. | |
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| Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,185 Location: Ennis, Texas Status: Couple
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We have been members since the beginning and haven't run into any fakes. It must be luck cause it sure ain't my boyish good looks.
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| Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 197 Location: Laurinburg, NC Status: Single Male Swing Lifestyle Name:ATAK
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| Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 284 Location: Michigan Status: Married Couple
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We've had good luck with Swing Lifestyle as well as Swapper Net. But we have had to sort through a lot of thorns before we find the rose. Good luck in your search. | |
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