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| Registered Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 6 Location: Jacksonville, FL Status: Couple
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Our lovemaking sessions over the past year or so have gotten more and more heavy. We have been married for 15 years and have more recently begun expanding our sexual menu (so to speak). For so many years it was just oral and missionary. We started watching some pornos and getting into different positions, toys, and even anal which drives her crazy now. About two weeks ago I was sick and didn't feel like doing anything and she was horny. She admitted to me that while I slept on the couch she pleasured herself with her vibrator. She thought I would be mad, I said "hell no I am not mad. I want to watch you do it." Since then things have really taken off sexually. She can't get enough. She wants to fuck 24/7 now (she is in her early 30's and hitting her prime). I had to work nights last week and she told me she was "going to have to go elsewhere to get it"...this really drove me over the edge because it has been my fantasy for a long time to see someone else fuck my wife. This fantasy all started during one of our lovemaking sessions while we were watching a porno. There were two couples who swapped and watched each other with another person...my wife asked if I could ever do that. Since then it has been burned nto my mind. During sex earlier this week I asked my wife where she was going to go to "get it". She said nowhere and I told her that I wouldn't be mad if she said there was someone else she wanted to fuck. I told her that the thought of seeing it turned me on. I told her that if there was someone else she wanted to fuck and I couldn't be there that she should do it, as long as she comes back and tells me all about it. The sex was outrageous that night. The next night I brought it up again during sex. She said she was confused as to why I would want to see her with someone else. I told her that I want to see her experience that pleasure from the outside. She is so beautiful I want to see her fulfilled in every way possible. I told her that if she could see herself with that vibrator she would understand. I had to convince her that I was sincere and not "setting her up for anything"or that I said that just so I can fuck someone else. Truth be told I don't really want to fuck anyone else. My wife is the ultimate, everything else would pale in comparison. I just want to watch her fuck other men or maybe participate in a MMF three way. She seems to think that there are not alot of men who would like to see their wives with someone else. She asked me if I was worried that she would like it? I told her that I wouldn't want her to do it if she didn't like it. I asked her a few more times if she was turned on by this idea and she said "well, I do like sex...alot". The more I talk to her about it the wetter her pussy gets...I think I am on the verge of something here. Any advice on how to proceed with this one? |
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I tell Mrs Naughty that all the time!! Truly amazing, isn't it? facelick Those are the same reasons I enjoy the MFM so much. Hell, sometimes I will just remain neutral and watch her enjoy the experience. The more she gets out of it, the more I get out of it. facelick You planted the seed and put the ball in her court. I would keep bringing it up during sex since it seems to turn her on as well, but DON'T OVER DO IT! I would also bring it up out of the bed so she knows you aren't just caught up in the moment. Bring it up just enough to let her know you are serious but don't pant. Once she gets comfortable enough with the idea, she will make the next move towards making this fantasy a reality for the both of you. If she feels pushed she is likely to back away from something she wouldn't otherwise mind trying. | |
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| Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,425 Location: Indiana Status: Blissfull SITCOM Swing Lifestyle Name:northindycpl
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I agree, bringing up the subject outside of the bedroom is great advice. Maybe plan an evening with just the 2 of you so that you can really talk openly about your desires, and her share with you her desires. I also think that make some suggestions to her about looking on the internet about swinging, bringing her to this board, etc, may help to start some great conversations and perhaps give her the answers to her questions and some of yours. (like do other husbands really do this?) Good luck! |
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| Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 102 Location: Southern, Oregon Status: couple Swing Lifestyle Name:musiclovers05
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I, too, love to watch my lover, curiousfemale40, during our sex play. Although we're still swing virgins at this point, the fantasy of a MFM with her has been a constant thing whispered between us during sex. I know that the fantasy turns her on about 200% higher than normal, and I know this to be true because she gets amazingly wet which is a plus for both of us! And when she comes, well, it's just too awesome to not share with somebody. The thought of watching her suck and play with another guy at the same time as I am inside her is an exciting thought to me. If and when that happens for real I feel confident that I won't have a problem with it. I've read a few threads on the board from men who did feel a twinge of jealousy the first time. It seems though, that most of them got over it after the first experience. However, I don't think that she should run off with another guy, without you being there, at least as an escort. I hope that our dreams come true, and that the reality will be even better than the fantasy....Only one way to really find out, eh? |
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| D witchDR. S manages all! Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 365 Location: Oklahoma City, OK. 73162 Status: Couple Swing Lifestyle Name:DaveNSheila
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Ditto to what everyone else has said. D
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| Here to Stay Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 47 Location: Michigan,USA Status: Couple
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| Registered Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 6 Location: Jacksonville, FL Status: Couple
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Wow, things have really moved along over the past few days. We talked about this last on Wednesday night. Friday night we were at it again. During our lovemaking I brought it up and she said she was still unsure as to why I want to see her with another man. I explained it again. She kept saying it feels wierd, but kept right on talking about it. After a few minutes of dodging the question about it turning her on she told me that she wasn't sure she could do it with me watching her the first time. I told her that was fine, if she wanted to be alone then we would do that as long as I get all of the details from her. We agreed on that. A little while later we were talking again and she asked if I wouldn't rather get another couple so we could both do it. I told her maybe, I have no real interest in being with another woman, but I still want to see her with another man. This excited her again. After some intense action we started talking again. She asked whether I thought the other guy should be a stranger or someone we know. I asked what she thought and she told me she would be more comfotable with someone she knows. We talked a bit more and I asked her who she had in mind. After trying to dodge the answer she finally admitted that there was someone at work who would do it, but she isn't sure if he will do it in front of me. I told her that is fine, if she gets the opportunity to do it, to take it as long as she comes back to me with all of the details. She works in a small office where the two of them are alone alot of the time, especially in the evenings. The office is equipped with a small apartment (complete with bed)where her boss stays when he comes into town. After talking with her it seems she has been doing some thinking about this and wants to fuck this guy. I have no problem with this. She was worried that it might come between us. I told her that I trust her and know that she loves me. I told her that the sex is physical pleasure and what we have is way more than that and the fact that she wants to fuck someone else is the same as me wanting her to fuck someone else. I told her that it was a decision that we would both make together and that it will not come between us, but only make us closer. She agreed. I am just wondering if any of the rest of you have let your wives have their fun away from you like this? We agreed that if she needed to do it that way in the beginning that was fine but that I want to be a part of it. She brought up the idea of another couple, so I am sure that is the direction we are headed. Should I have any reservations about her doing this alone (becuase I don't right now)? |
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| Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 102 Location: Midwest
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nujax, I'm very tempted to suggest that the three of you meet before anything takes place. You may get a different point of view from someone else but my reasoning is that Mr. should be made very well aware that you're okay with any activities that take place and that you're going to hear about them. This is as much about your wife's safety and well-being as it is about keeping the air "clear". Any ground rules that the two of you establish should be well-defined to this gentleman, as well, with no questions asked. If I can say this without seeming callous, you aren't sharing your wife with this man for his benefit. It's about your wife and you. Not trying to throw an ice pack in your lap, if you get my meaning, but there's nothing in this worth taking any unnecessary risks. Frankly, I wish you both the best of luck with your adventure especially since Mrs. Van and I have an ongoing fantasy very much like yours. Van |
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| Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 153 Location: Ohio Status: Couple
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This is the Mrs. here I agree with Van. I think you should all meet for a drink. D (male half) always wants to make sure he feels safe about the guy before we do anything with him. I agree, also, that this guy needs to be well aware of your participation and knowledge. D and I never play away from each other because, like you, the whole reason we do it is because he loves to watch me be pleasured. But I know that other couples do allow each other play alone. It is all a matter of preference and what your comfortable with. Many of the things you said that your wife has said sounds JUST like what I said. I was confused about him wanting me to be with another man, also. At first it makes you feel like "doesn't he love me too much to let that happen". Once we talked about it more and I understood what was driving him I was fine with it. Also, I was uncomfortable with the thought of D watching me with another guy but once I got lost in the heat of passion I was fine. Maybe a good way to start that would be for you two to start playing and then let the other guy join in when she gets heated up and then you could step back and watch. I would definately let her read this board because she will find that many men who are truly in love with their wives and are turned on by their own wife more than any other love to watch her with another man. I guess what I'm saying is she will find it is a normal feeling for a guy! Good luck! -M |
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| Oh...Why not?... Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,312 Location: Northern Call-ee-forn-ee-ah Status: Married Couple
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I'm hopin' it hits around 50! Sorry young-uns, you'll just have to wait! Male D |
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| Here to Stay Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 39 Location: Indiana Status: Married couple
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Your situation sounds exactly like ours, with the exception that ours has been realized. My wife had fantasies about a coworker and we've talked about her fantasies during sex, and outside of any sexual environments (watching tv, having dinner, driving to the grocery store, etc). I was always supportive of her and told her I've always had fantasies of her being with another man. She thought it odd at first that I would have those fantasies, but it's because I love her and trust her implicitly that I told her that she should explore other venues, so to speak. Like you I have no interest in another couple or a partner for me, just her being with another man and me watching, or both of them alone together somewhere - as long as she told me about it and did not leave out any details. To make a long story short, she and her coworker eventually got together, albeit in parks and parking lots and made out like teenagers (discretion being the key word - both have high profile jobs). She'd tell me all the juicy details when she'd get home that night and we'd re-enact her adventures and finish off with a bang. He has since been transferred to another office and she hasn't had a playmate in a while, so we're back to fantasizing all over again. The sex is still great, but since we've discovered this site, it's even greater - and exploring other possibilities on how to get potential playmates for her. That gets our juices flowing. My point is you need to be supportive of your wife and be sure this is what you both want to do. Granted, when I knew she was with him, I felt intense feelings of jealousy along with a heightened sense of sexual turn-on, so I know exactly what you're going through and what you may feel in the future. We've been happily married for 14 years and together 18. Hoping to be old and gray together by the time this whole thing is through. Enjoy the ride, you're lucky to have each other. |
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| Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 395 Location: Toronto Status: Couple
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What this thread shows is that there isn't any one "right" way..... personally I would say we would come down pretty close to what Van said. The whole experience is about us, enjoying something together. If the other guy were to be uncomfortable with both of us being part of it then he isn't on the same page we are. But, as Curious1103 points out, I guess it can work just fine the other way. It just comes down to whatever works for the two of you... something that you are both sure you are comfortable with before you take it to the next step. Oh, and I don't know when women hit their prime. From personal experience its got to be somewhere north of 45 'cause my SO doesn't seem to have peaked yet.... just keeps getting hotter and hotter. |
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| Registered Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 6 Location: Jacksonville, FL Status: Couple
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I appreciate the advice. I have not mentioned it again since Friday night, just to see if she brings it up. I am planning on talking about it again tonight if she gets home in time for us to have some alone time together. The thought of this has kept me aroused for almost a week now nonstop. It is crazy that I am thinking about it this much but I cannot stop. I never thought she would even entertain the idea as she has always been one to be so straight laced about only having sex with one person after marraige. It amazes me that once I told her I wanted to see her with someone that she would suggest we get a couple so we could both do it. I am not sure where this is all headed, but I can tell you the ride is fun so far. I can only imagine it getting better.
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| Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 357 Location: Colorado Status: M.Male
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Nujax, I'm in definite agreement with those who are concerned about the safety of their wives, so 'nuff said there. Although your wife may lust after her co-worker a little, you don't know him well enough to know if he's just some guy who's OK with screwing your wife or if he's some guy who might be potentially interested in having her as his girl. Your wife may know the score on this better, since she works with him. I'd almost be inclined to not bring it up for a little while just to see how interested she is. Based on several of her comments, I'm betting she's just as anxious to bring it up again as you are. Gotta love anticipation!! facelick Anyhow, if you and your wife discuss it further (and I'm betting it isn't far off), I'd mention your safety concern, and I think she'll think even more of you for it. I'd also ask her what she thinks the co-worker would think if things started to warm up a little and before they got too far along, she made it a point to let him know that you were OK with her exploring a little but that you ultimately wanted to be on site or an involved playmate. I'd think the MFM sounds delicious and I would think your wife would think so too after she feels comfortable having you around. But you never know what the co-worker will think. If he thinks you're kinky, that's cool as long as he likes it. But it is possible the idea of you being around would be a turnoff to him. If that's the case, I don't think he's ultimately where you or your wife want to be. Although I can understand her initial reluctance to have you watch (after all, it is a kind of strange concept), I would think based on her statement about possibly contacting a couple, that she wants it to be a team sport, and to that I say, good for her. You've got a good woman! I think someone else mentioned bringing your wife on board to let her read a few stories. There's a wealth of info and great advice on this place, and if nothing else, some of the situations couldn't help but keep the sexual flame stoked. Good luck, and be sure to let us know how the adventure pans out! |
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