Broken Full Swap Boundaries

[jcbicouple]

Originally Posted by Vespertine

It means her husband isn't allowed to have an orgasm with another person. She, on the other hand, can orgasm with another person. Only her husband has this restriction.

Did we miss something in her posts? We read it that neither of them were supposed to "finish" without the other. They both had the same rules. She let the other guy stop her from going back into the room (while she was coming out of the bathroom, not another bedroom) because her husband was already breaking the rules with his wife. Granted, She should have stopped it there, but not everyone thinks that quickly or aggresively in situations like that. As far as not finishing with someone else: Frankly, since it sounds like he can't do it again, we don't think it's unreasonable to ask that they finish together at the end. Lots of people have this rule.
We always have sex with each other last, and aren't sure we'd be open to letting the other finish with someone else either if we couldn't have them again until the next day! (Guess we're fortunate that we don't have this problem)

[Vespertine]

Originally Posted by jcbicouple

Did we miss something in her posts? We read it that neither of them were supposed to "finish" without the other.

Nope. Reading back I think I missed something in the OP's posts. I think when I posted, I was thinking about their "No Kissing" rule...

Originally Posted by BuNNyinmi

No the kissing does not pertain to me kissing other women.

I thought she posted somewhere that only he couldn't cum with other partners because after he came once, he was unable to play any further through the night. I assumed (bad thing to do! *bad Vespy!* ) the rule didn't apply to her because she didn't have this problem and the because the kissing rule didn't apply to her.

Though I feel bad for the OP- I feel that the rules are one sided. What's good for the goose is also good for the gander and vice versa. I think restricting only one person is a bad idea that potentially leads to problems.

*edit
I am in no way saying that the problems she's having in her marriage are a result of the swinging/swinging rules.

[wrnakedru]

Ves -
I think perhaps you got where you did in your mind was because the couple play is a new thing and carries a set of rules to govern the activity in order to accommodate her comfort level.

For 2 1/2 years, their activity has consisted of her "exploring her bi-side" while he watched. If I am reading correctly, that was the extent of his involvement - watching.

I am guessing here - but I think it likely that whilst exploring her bi-side, there was some kissing going on. I could be wrong about her doing that. It's been my experience, however, that we ladies like kissing each other - - and there's a lot of that. Admittedly, it may have been different with her and her explorations. I don't think it's unreasonable to think in 2 1/2 years, he has viewed a lot of kissing. But maybe not.

I have to believe that within that same 2 1/2 year time period, she did become comfortable enough, and excited enough, to experience orgasms. Finished, so to speak. More than once. Perhaps multiple times during the course of a single encounter. Certainly multiple times over a 2 1/2 year span.

So yes, Ves, that's a lot of viewing this guy has done in 2 1/2 years. A durn sight LOTS of kissing and a great big bunches of wa-hooing as well.

And now he's gonna to be allowed through the door to be part of the actual action for a change. Say what you will about going as slow as the slowest partner ... and yes, I am not so obtuse that I don't understand that different levels of activity bring about a varying degree of comfort - and may need some rules to help with that. And yes, I agree there are large communication difficulties here - as well as some huge "basic marriage 101" issues that are in desperate need of immediate attention.

BUT honest and true? I'm having a hard time faulting the guy for wanting to be able to do what he's watched her do for 2 1/2 years. Even the most pious of saints would eventually have to ask "When is it MY turn?" I'm having a real hard time here feeling empathy for the lady in question as she cries "FOUL."

She's been riding in a limo for 2 1/2 years - and he's had to run along side of it, while peering through the darkened windows. Now he's going to be allowed to ride, but the rules are he only gets to stand up on the running board. Yup, I'm having a real hard time calling him heartless and viewing her as wronged.

WR

[Vespertine]

A big FAT Dito to you, WR!

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way.

This is pretty much what I'm reading between the lines.