Surprised by some of the responses, was Re: Why post photos at all

[prometheius]

N8tureGirl and I are a fortunate couple indeed! We really don’t have to be worried about being outed so we have the freedom to post complete bodyshots with face pics in our public section. We deliver the full profile package in that you can see what we really look like and we tell you what we are really all about. Interestingly enough, we don’t have to wade through endless emails from people who are looking for what we aren’t. The only people who email us are ones who are serious about swinging and won’t waste our time. I understand that everybody can’t have the liberties that we have, and all I can say is that I wish that everybody could enjoy the freedoms that we do.

I must say that I am totally blown away by many of the posts made on this forum today. I started a new thread today and posted on two others and it seems that I may have stirred up a hornets’ nest of feelings, or, is it just that the celestial bodies are in misalignment? At this moment, I truly appreciate Chicup’s avatar (ughh). If it’s me, I apologize for getting everybody worked up, but then again, aren’t we all here for intelligent, thought provoking discourse? Whatever it is, I’ve suddenly become aware of what a politically correct society we have become. What a shame. If every word I write is not as everyone else wants to hear, I will be castigated for what I have said as will any other poster who speaks their opinion. At this rate, we will all be talking in “duckspeak” in short order. EEEK! There are some people here who are fearless in speaking their minds (Vegas Lee, Chicup, MrKLin, NCfuncouple98, The Fuse, LustyLearning, JustAskJulie). Though we are many miles apart, I wish we could all hang together, you are some of the coolest thinking minds I have ever had the pleasure to read into!

P.S. (Disclaimer) Please don't over think this post or try to dissect it. It is meant to offend no one, just deliver thought provoking ideas.

[NCfuncouple98]

Originally Posted by prometheius

There are some people here who are fearless in speaking their minds (Vegas Lee, Chicup, MrKLin, NCfuncouple98, The Fuse, LustyLearning, JustAskJulie). Though we are many miles apart, I wish we could all hang together, you are some of the coolest thinking minds I have ever had the pleasure to read into!

Why thank you. Nope, we are not afraid of speaking our minds. I don't care if you've been in this lifestyle 20 minutes or 20 years, are full swap, soft swap, have had 50+ encounters, or 1. We all have something to add to each discussion.

Some things are common sense, some things are very opinionated, and to each their own. We don't ever intend to infringe anyone's views or opinions, but if you want straight-from-the-hip no-bullshit, we're happy to tell you what we think!

Just be careful what you ask, you may not hear what you want to!

[prometheius]

Just be careful what you ask, you may not hear what you want to!

I agree with you completely. It's all I hoped for.

[N8ture Girl]

Originally Posted by NCfuncouple98

Just be careful what you ask, you may not hear what you want to!

LOL, yeah you maybe right, but it doesnt matter if I like it or not. I enjoy pondering other's opinions and view points. The view point maybe something that I had not considered before and it may change my own opinion or just add to it...

[two4youinswva]

Originally Posted by prometheius

I must say that I am totally blown away by many of the posts made on this forum today. I started a new thread today and posted on two others and it seems that I may have stirred up a hornets’ nest of feelings, or, is it just that the celestial bodies are in misalignment?

I looked through all the posts you've made today, and am having difficulty locating said hornets' nest. I did see one post the two of you didn't appear to care for, but other than that, it looks like good discourse. Did I miss something?

[rpu3]

Originally Posted by prometheius

I must say that I am totally blown away by many of the posts made on this forum today. I started a new thread today and posted on two others and it seems that I may have stirred up a hornets’ nest of feelings, or, is it just that the celestial bodies are in misalignment? At this moment, I truly appreciate Chicup’s avatar (ughh). If it’s me, I apologize for getting everybody worked up, but then again, aren’t we all here for intelligent, thought provoking discourse? Whatever it is, I’ve suddenly become aware of what a politically correct society we have become. What a shame. If every word I write is not as everyone else wants to hear, I will be castigated for what I have said as will any other poster who speaks their opinion. At this rate, we will all be talking in “duckspeak” in short order. EEEK! There are some people here who are fearless in speaking their minds (Vegas Lee, Chicup, MrKLin, NCfuncouple98, The Fuse, LustyLearning, JustAskJulie). Though we are many miles apart, I wish we could all hang together, you are some of the coolest thinking minds I have ever had the pleasure to read into!

P.S. (Disclaimer) Please don't over think this post or try to dissect it. It is meant to offend no one, just deliver thought provoking ideas.

Well, we are now threadjacking, and maybe we'll need to move these posts out of here, but I am honestly confused as to what you are talking about? I've posted in both of these threads, and have read your posts in these threads, and I'm flumoxed as to why a strong opinion to your query or post is considered PC speak? I view your other thread as exactly why I enjoy this Board because I know that many are not going to hold back as to how they see things. So, since I'm thinking that things are really good here because there's no censorship or restraint in posting an opinion, no matter how against the premise presented, I'm confused as to how you got to where you are?

And no, I'm not overthinking your post.

[MrkLin]

As I said in the other thread (before I found this one - oops) you didn't stir anything up - I did. I'm used to that though. I've been verbally taken to the woodshed a few times, and I've usually deserved it, but not always - at least I didn't think so.

As I said in that thread, I'm sometimes blunt, frank, opinionated, and very passionate. Some people don't like that. Something most folks forget about this medium, however, is that with just text, you miss so much of what a person is trying to say. There's no inflection of voice, no body language, no facial expressions - nothing but text. I was accused of 'mean-spirited thinking' today, and that absolutely floored Lin and I. Still, I understood how that person could get that impression from just the cold letters staring back at them from their monitor. They can't see that half the time I'm smiling as I type, and when I use the LOL smiley I'm actually laughing out loud. To steal a line from a popular radio personality, I'm a harmless, lovable little fuzzball.

I do understand the limitations of this medium, and that's why I don't get upset about being criticized. I actually take that criticism to heart and look for ways to correct things when I've gone a bit overboard. As I said, sometimes I have deserved it.

Don't worry about stirring anything up. It might happen, it might not. I wouldn't do it intentionally though. I've found your posts so far to be thought-provoking. Spirited debate is a good thing. Imagine how boring it would be if everyone agreed with everyone else. You two are doing just fine, and I, for one, hope you keep it up.

[SW_PA_Couple]

Originally Posted by prometheius

There are some people here who are fearless in speaking their minds (Vegas Lee, Chicup, MrKLin, NCfuncouple98, The Fuse, LustyLearning, JustAskJulie)

Wah . You left me off the list.

[rpu3]

Wah . You left me off the list.

Yeah, there are a lot of people who speak their mind on this Board, even if they weren't called out by the OP. It's the best thing about the Board, IMO, being a staunch "free speech" kind of gal.

I must say that I am totally blown away by many of the posts made on this forum today. I started a new thread today and posted on two others and it seems that I may have stirred up a hornets’ nest of feelings, or, is it just that the celestial bodies are in misalignment? At this moment, I truly appreciate Chicup’s avatar (ughh). If it’s me, I apologize for getting everybody worked up, but then again, aren’t we all here for intelligent, thought provoking discourse? Whatever it is, I’ve suddenly become aware of what a politically correct society we have become. What a shame. If every word I write is not as everyone else wants to hear, I will be castigated for what I have said as will any other poster who speaks their opinion. At this rate, we will all be talking in “duckspeak” in short order. EEEK! There are some people here who are fearless in speaking their minds (Vegas Lee, Chicup, MrKLin, NCfuncouple98, The Fuse, LustyLearning, JustAskJulie). Though we are many miles apart, I wish we could all hang together, you are some of the coolest thinking minds I have ever had the pleasure to read into!

P.S. (Disclaimer) Please don't over think this post or try to dissect it. It is meant to offend no one, just deliver thought provoking ideas.

It would be nice if all freely expressed opinion was considered fearless. Obviously, it's a subjective/YMMV issue. I'm very suprised that if one's opinion is contrary to the OP's original post premise, you aren't fearless - just hostile or too PC or too something, and it could lead to others' being inhibited to express their viewpoint. Which is exactly the opposite of the intent of the thread in question or so I thought - to solicit opinions, no matter what the poster's position may ultimately be. It isn't getting worked up just because we are an opinionated bunch.

And no, I'm still not overthinking this. Haven't had enough coffee yet.

[lustylearning]

Originally Posted by SW_PA_Couple

Wah . You left me off the list.

[prometheius]

two4youinswva: I looked through all the posts you've made today, and am having difficulty locating said hornets' nest. I did see one post the two of you didn't appear to care for, but other than that, it looks like good discourse. Did I miss something?

I admit that my choice of wording here was not the best. Hornets' nest was far too strong. I was commenting on how I was reading what I thought were intellectual emotional responses. I wasn't looking for the emotional part of it, it's just the way it worked out.

rpu3: PC speak?

I was referring to George Orwell's 1984

MrkLin: Something most folks forget about this medium, however, is that with just text, you miss so much of what a person is trying to say. There's no inflection of voice, no body language, no facial expressions - nothing but text. I was accused of 'mean-spirited thinking' today, and that absolutely floored Lin and I. Still, I understood how that person could get that impression from just the cold letters staring back at them from their monitor. They can't see that half the time I'm smiling as I type, and when I use the LOL smiley I'm actually laughing out loud.

I'm guilty of this as well. I didn't see it as mean spirited thinking.

MrkLin: I've found your posts so far to be thought-provoking.

That was the sole intent.

SW_PA_Couple: You left me off the list.

I named the posters that I did because at some point in their posting history they have stated something that struck me as profound and has in some way altered my course of thought, perhaps my way of living. I wanted to recognize them for that.

rpu3: I'm very suprised that if one's opinion is contrary to the OP's original post premise, you aren't fearless - just hostile or too PC or too something, and it could lead to others' being inhibited to express their viewpoint.

I am sorry if you misunderstood what I was trying to say. Sometimes, a profound statement requires that the person making the statement have a fearless attitude. Repercussions be damned.

I hope I've helped to clear the air

[The Fuse]

Whew -- go away for a weekend and miss a lot. Promethius, I did not see the hornet's nest either. And thanks for the compliment. Anonymity adds courage :-).

In general life, I have found that the best way to be say something that will annoy someone else is to open my mouth and speak. Like MrkLin wrote, it is easier to be taken the wrong way without tone of voice, pace, inflection etc. to help out. My writing style is so dry... I think people would be surprised a little by how I come across in person, and that I'd be surprised too, if I met others who post here.

I have an old friend who was a very assertive, very in-your-face personality. She was great but a little difficult to take at times. One day, she had a light bulb go off and shared a very important lesson with me -- the Cocktail Voice lesson. She had discovered that she could say something in her normal, forceful tone of voice and get a bad reaction, but if she said the same thing in her Cocktail Voice (think the lady in the orange juice commercials with the soothing voice) a few minutes later, she would get a much more positive reaction. I never forgot that, especially because I tend towards being strident at times. (I blame my mother.) The Cocktail Voice really works.

We don't have our Cocktail Voices at our disposal when we write, or at least it is harder to use them.

[femnewb4u2]

Originally Posted by The Fuse

-- the Cocktail Voice lesson. She had discovered that she could say something in her normal, forceful tone of voice and get a bad reaction, but if she said the same thing in her Cocktail Voice (think the lady in the orange juice commercials with the soothing voice) a few minutes later, she would get a much more positive reaction. I never forgot that, especially because I tend towards being strident at times. (I blame my mother.) The Cocktail Voice really works.

We don't have our Cocktail Voices at our disposal when we write, or at least it is harder to use them.

Oh would it not be wonderful if we could find a way to translate the cocktail voice into our typings, Wonderful thought. Almost like listening to the voice at the end of pharmacutical commercials with the disclaimers. The style that takes the "edge off" potentionally negative words.