so this is spam

[twoforone100]

We do a weekly meet and greet at bailey's on west broad. 6 to 9 on weds. It is an open invite. There are some singles of both sexes there. It is mostly a couples meet and greet but the female we started it with is looking for males. We have been doing it since april. We have no problems so far. It is a meet and greet in public. Bailey's does not know we are there. You can find out details by emailing us on sls or aff. We have groups on both sites devoted to this. Single males you are welcome if you can act correctly. We have been getting about 9 couples as an average. With 3 or so singles of both sexes. We are sitting at the long table straight in from the door. Look at our profiles on sls and aff if you need to know who to look for. We are thinking about a dance party on the 11th. Read the sls group for details for that. patrick Pattie



That was posted in the meet up section.




this is the reply we got.

Hi, Twoforone!

I am the moderator for the Meet Up! forum on the Swingers Board. It is my duty to make sure all threads encompass the intentions of the forum. Unfortunately, yours does not for a couple of reasons.

Swingers Board Meet Ups! are for members and regular posters of the board to meet for dinner or some similar non-threatening venue to put faces with the screen names and to talk about Board issues. They are not intended to lead to sex.

Julie, our owner, does not allow cluibs to post spam in our forums without her express and written apporval. She has not notified me that you've been granted that permission.

In the meantime, I'm going to move your thread to the "Personal Ads" forum where Julie will review it and decide its ultimate fate.

Please hang around with us and add to your posts. We'd love to hear your thoughts on the issues we discuss.

However, please don't spam us.

Looking forward to getting to know y'all better!

Mr. Alura

It put a bad taste in our mouth. Just wondering what everyone else thought. We are the same sn on sls and aff. We have groups there that has information. We are not a club and it is a meet and greet in public. There is no expectations of anything. Sounds like mr alura did not do any research. Makes us not feel very welcome here. And to call us a spammer well screw him. Patrick pattie

[VegasLee]

I think that Mr. Alura follows the rules of the owner of the web site so he is doing his job.

Saying "screw him" because he does what is expected of him by the owner of the web site tells me that you have no respect for the lady that pays the bills and owns the web site. Making this post enforces my views.

No class.

[twoforone100]

One it is a meet and greet true to the word. I guess we are not regular enough? Your choice. We guess you did not go to the aff group or the sls group but that is fine. There is no expectation of sex at these meet and greet. Two we are not a club just a group of couples in richmond. Three if we "broke" your rules sorry. Just delete the post. OH and screw you about the please don't spam us. That is uncalled for we think. Did we ever spam you? We think not? Five Mr alura you might have thought you were polite but we feel differently. Thanks for making us feel welcome. We are the same name on aff and sls and a few other sites. You will notice that lots of people know and like us and know we don't spam and have the best intentions. Have a great day and hope your web site has the best of luck. We will not give people the advice to come here anymore. Patrick Pattie



This was our reply to Mr alura

[twoforone100]

We did not violate any of these rules ..

This forum is for members of the board to set up "Meet UP's" with other members of this forum in a particular area.

Over the last few years we have had several successful Meet Up's arranged by various members of the board in the Midwest, SouthEast, Michigan, Canada, OK, TX, and more.

If you are interested in trying to set up a Meet Up for members of the board in your area then please post the info here to get started.

Please keep in mind, that these Meet Ups are not swinger parties....

Meet Up's arranged in THIS forum are to be strictly no-pressure meetings. The idea is to give members of the board a way to meet other members in their area and put names with faces and possibly make real life friends out of online friends.

Postings here should NOT be:
Advertisements for swinger parties.
Attempts to arrange swinger parties.
Meetings where play/sex is assumed.

Any posts that do fall into the above categories will be removed.

If you have a meet up and it turns into more after the fact that is up to you, but it should not be advertised here as anything but a simple meet and greet where anyone and everyone would feel welcome and be able to meet others with like-minds, make friends and perhaps learn more about how this lifestyle fits them (and in some cases if it does).

[twoforone100]

We did all of this.

My pet mentioned to me that I should post something to encourage others to set up more Meet Ups (he evidently enjoyed the one in Reno) and I thought that was a good idea.

I think that often people people get the idea that only moderators and admins can set up Meet Ups, but that's not true. ANYONE can set up a Meet Up. I would personally love to see a meet up happen somewhere in the country every month. We have enough people from all over the country that this could happen quite easily, but to do this we need people in different areas who are willing to organize the events. And really this is much easier than you might think. Here are the things you'll need/want to consider if you are thinking about setting up a Meet Up.

1. Where. Whether you live in a large city or a small one, you can choose to do a meet up in your home town or take it to a nearby city where you know there are fun things to do and places to go.

You'll want to find a place for dinner, someplace that accepts group reservations and where a group of people can actually hear each other talk. Someplace with a bar is also a good thing. Try to keep the prices mid-range and affordable. Somep people can spend more than others, and while some may be comfortable paying $25+ a plate (not counting drinks), others may need to keep it a bit lower.

You'll also want to find someplace to go after dinner. If you have a good night club in the area you are in that is a good option. In past meetups we have gone everywhere from dance clubs to swinger clubs. The important thing is that if you do choose to go to a swinger club that it is made clear that there is no pressure on anyone to do anything at the club.

If you are expecting any members from outside of your immideate area you will also want to suggest a hotel or two. It's often easiest if you can suggest everyone stay at the same hotel, as it makes finding everyone much simpler. If you have a larger group you may want to go so far as to reserve a block of rooms to ensure that everyone can get in at that hotel. Again try to keep price in mind when picking a hotel but also take some time to check out the hotels in your area. Most hotels will let you view a room if you tell them you are interested in booking a block, so that you can see what the accomadations are like before reserving

While many of our larger meetups are two day events (because those who have done them have found that they are just too much fun to limit to one night), if you want to plan a one night event that is perfectly fine (and much easier to do when planning your first event).

2. When. Try to avoid holiday weekends as most people are already busy. Beyond that it's always helpful to post your initial plan to have a meetup in your area with a few options for dates and get some feedback on those who may be able to attend on which of the dates is best for them.

Don't get dissapointed if the interest/ turn out seems low. Our larger meetups tend to occur in the areas where most of our active members are from, but others areas have had great turn outs too. Sometimes it takes a little time to build interest in an area as well. So if you only get one other couple for the first Meetup, don't let that keep you from trying again.

Some of the past places where Meetups have been hosted.... Mobile AL, Atlanta GA, Memphis TN, Columbus OH, Indianapolis IN, Reno NV, Windsor Canada, Detroit MI.

If you have previously set up a Meet Up and would like to add more advice for those considering it please do so here. If you have questions about setting up a MeetUp, feel free to ask them.
__________________
Julie
Owner/ Admin




So why was it moved. Because we don't post enough. But that is never mentioned. Patrick Pattie

[twoforone100]

No actually the rules are unwritten and that is my issue. Calling it spam in our minds is rude. To call some one a spammer for posting about a meet and greet is rude. Anyway you cut it. I did edit what I wanted to say. We did say sorry for breaking their rules. We do have respect for her site. We don't feel like we received it in return. Patrick Pattie

[LikeMinds321]

Originally Posted by twoforone100

We do a weekly meet and greet at bailey's on west broad. 6 to 9 on weds. It is an open invite. There are some singles of both sexes there. It is mostly a couples meet and greet but the female we started it with is looking for males. We have been doing it since april. We have no problems so far. It is a meet and greet in public. Bailey's does not know we are there. You can find out details by emailing us on sls or aff. We have groups on both sites devoted to this. Single males you are welcome if you can act correctly. We have been getting about 9 couples as an average. With 3 or so singles of both sexes. We are sitting at the long table straight in from the door. Look at our profiles on sls and aff if you need to know who to look for. We are thinking about a dance party on the 11th. Read the sls group for details for that. patrick Pattie

The first rule of Swingers Board Meet Ups:

This forum is for members of the board to set up "Meet UP's" with other members of this forum in a particular area.

Here's the problem I see with your post.

It's an open invite to any swingers anywhere you post. As you said, you have posts going about these regular meets on SLS and AFF.

The Board rules state the Meet Ups are for Swingers Board members only - you have to be a member here and it is specificly for and limited to only members here.

You've missed this important point by posting a meet that is listed on other sites and open to people who are not members of Swingers Board.

LM

[twoforone100]

Thanks for the answer. That is a rule we missed. We don't wish to break anyones rules. We don't like to be called names however. Now why could mr alura just have said that rather than call us spammers? Patrick pattie

[VegasLee]

Since it appears that you feel your problem is with Mr. Alure, why did you not email him instead of making a giant PUBLIC post about it?

Stand by my prior thoughts.

[twoforone100]

Hummm We broke no rules we have found. We did email him. Your thought are yours. Thank you. We stand by our opinon. To call us a spammer for a post on a meet and greet in the name of the site is wrong. Especially we we broke none of the rules that were posted in the " meet up section". Nice web site by the way. Patrick Pattie

[twoforone100]

Our Meet Ups! are not "meet and greets." They are arranged so that members of the board can meet, put faces with the posts, and discuss board issues.

Our experience with "meet and greets" are that people go to them hoping to find playmates. That is not the case with Swingers Board Meet Ups!

If you read some of the threads in the Meet Up! forum, you'll perhaps gain a better understanding. There is one happening in Nashville on the 19th, 20th & 21st of this month. Come along and join us and I think you'll see why your post did not belong in the Meet Up! forum.

My best to both of you.

Mr. Alura



Well on a weds night there is no expectation of sex. It is from 6 to 9 pm. If you have never been to one of our meet and greets then don't judge them. Baileys is a sports bar. There are kids around. Love the way people jump the gun. We read all of the " rules". We don't feel like we deserved to be called spammers for that post. We read the post by julie that said anyone could have a meet up. I hoped others would do so. We guess not. All our meet and greet is an adult happy hour. Meet and greeting. NOTHING more. I have never spammed anyone ever. I really got up set when you called a post ( about a meet and greet) spam. Perhaps you should go to aff or sls and read about some of the the past weds night meet and greet at bailey's and see how they went. Before you comment on them. Now you seem to have a different issue with the post. Fine NO worries we won't post another meet and greet again. You did upset us by being rude. Hope you meet up goes well. We won't be joining you and will tell others of our experience with you. We used to think this site was a big help now we are not so sure. Sorry if we broke your rules it was not our goal. Just to get some people together in the real world. Like minded people. Nothing more. I guess you guys want something different. Patrick pattie







So there you have it. The issue seems to have changed. From us not being regular enough to a debate over what a meet and greet is. Oh well it is their site and it is their rules. Just wish they were posted so they could be followed. Still feel it is rude to be called spammers for a post.


Patrick Pattie

[Alura]

I apologize for having upset you, Twoforone. I have answered your private message with a private message.

To all y'all other folks out there who may be confused, a Meet Up! is not a "meet and greet." Therefore, I always remove posts about meet and greets in the Meet Up! forum. It happens all the time. I consider such posts to be "soft spam" in that the intent is almost always encouragement to attend the poster's events. I found that to be the case with Twoforone's post. I didn't call them "spammers." I simply asked that they not "spam us."

A Meet Up! is a meeting of members of this board. It is intended to allow us to put faces with posts, discuss board issues, and (yes) get to know each other better. Admittedly, they're a helluva lot of fun!

My perception of a "meet and greet" is a gathering which swingers attend hoping to meet potential playmates. They seem to be held on a local basis and anyone is invited. Meet Ups! are at least national in scope, sometimes international, and only Swingers Board members are invited.

Twoforone is not the first member to confuse the two different types of events. They will surely not be the last, nor will their post be the last one I move out of the Meet Up! forum.

My personal apologies to the board for the unfortunate unpleasantries this incident has caused. Hopefully, Twoforone will chill a bit and join us in our discussions.

Mr. Alura

[twoforone100]

As noted above in the post by julie in the meet up fourm anyone can have meet up's. We guess this is not true. Considering we posted one post about and meet and greet and were asked not to spam you. If we sent" soft spam" what ever that is and you asked us not to. We feel you did call us spammers. But you are right it is a fine line. We feel we were unfairly judged by someone who does not know us or what our event is about. patrick pattie

[Alura]

You may absolutely host a Swingers Board Meet Up!, Twoforone! I recommend it; they are a lot of fun! Anyone (Well... any Swingers Board member) can.

But you may not advertise a "meet and greet." They are two very different things.

Mr. Alura

[twoforone100]

No don't think we will be having a meet up. To call us spammers for something that everyone seems to get confused according to you. Perhaps you should make that more clear rather than call people spammers. It is a matter of what a meet and greet is. It is sort of like the words, fuck , play time, play, get together, hook up, hang out and a thousand others. They can mean different things to everyone. We won't advertise a meet and greet again here. Don't you worry. But don't call me a spammer a soft one or otherwise. Just a thought.

Patrick pattie