Soft swinging couples and Bi Sex Hard Swap

We want to know if other couples have considered or have experienced strapons for the females so that both males get banged by all other particpants. Are we totally alone or is this
so taboo that no one speeks of it. We notice an absence of
full bi-sex hard swaps also and realize this is way out there but
does it happen? So far we've never done it or even so much as
seen anyone with these types of fantasys on any forums etc...

[imsnowman]

Sounds like fun, but we've never done it. It's probably not very common but certainly possible.

[Brit_Pair]

We've played with strap-ons with another couple, but they were only used by the women on one another, and the possiblity of the men being fucked with one by the other woman never arose, even in a casual or joking fashion. That's not to say that it doesn't go on out there: as imsnowman said, it might be rare, but if one person can imagine it, there are probably others out there who have tried it.

[imsnowman]

Originally posted by Brit_Pair
there's probably others out there who have tried it.

Or want to given the right circumstances

[THEMATETRICKS]

i think men will enjoy it. the problem is that most men would think of it as a gay act instead of a sexual act. a mans g spot is in that forbidden place. if its a women with a strap on then you are satisfying a sexual need or want. if its a man on man then you are gay. there is a difference. is someone willing to try.

[hotcpl4unfla]

I recently don't care much for having anything in my ass( Especially a rather large strap on!) I have to admit though, the male g-spot is for real. A long time ago I had a small butt-plug that I used while masturbating. On one instance (and only one, unfortunately) I experienced the "ejaculationless orgasm". I actually orgasmed without expelling any cum! It was the most intense and incredible orgasm I had felt. Needless to say I yanked the plug out and proceeded to take care of things and came the regular way- quite powerfully I may add. But ever since then, I was never able to replicate the same thing. While attempting to replicate it, I started to dislike the whole anal thing. I don't know what it was, but I started to just flat out hate it. Now I don't even go there. My wife and I have no desire to strap it on with our other partners. If I could be guaranteed to have an experience like I did with the plug, man, I don't think I'd do anything else! That was definitely an incredible feeling. But I think the whole thing about a woman sticking something up there just doesn't appeal to me too much. I think it probably is a fear of the unknown, but the thought of it does nothing for me, really. To each his own, I guess.

[Brit_Pair]

I enjoy having my anus tongued by my wife, so I'm evidently receptive to pleasure there. However, in the distant past I've also had my anus penetrated by a old girlfriend's finger during lovemaking (a fruitless search for my g-spot), and whether I was too tense, or she was too rough, I found it to be excrutiatingly painful. To that end, I've shyed away from such further play. It has nothing to do with thinking that it's a gay activity; it has everything to do with the memory of that blinding pain (I'm still not completely sure that she didn't wrap sandpaper around her finger first).

I've always been curious about having my prostate massaged to see if I could experience the same sort of sensation hotcpl4unfla described above, but thus far (in my mind anyway) the prospect of the outlay has exceeded the potential rewards. Perhaps one day when I'm suitably relaxed . . . or anaesthetised.

As an additonal thought, but how extensive does a man's submissive side need to be in order for him to enjoy being penetrated by a strap-on? Is it even a factor in the equation? I enjoy being dominated by a woman, but only in as far as being bound, blindfolded and teased, before being used by her as a 'flesh dildo'. However, any urge to be penetrated by her has yet to manifest itself, in thought or deed. Am I still a control freak at heart?

[Miss_Piggy]

Originally posted by Brit_Pair
but if one person can imagine it, there are probably others out there who have tried it.

That's a sure bet!

Now I'm not a man, and I am bisexual, so the gay-fear is just not there for me. But I do have an objection to anal play. Now I'm not saying that people are wrong for doing it. Other people are free to enjoy themselves in whatever way they like. I think it's wonderful for people to play out the things they enjoy. For me, however, I'm stuck on the fact that bums are where poo comes from. It's my hang-up. I figure I'm allowed to have one hang-up... I'm pretty ready and willing for just about anything else


One other thing that I find interesting... (Please note that I actually have no knowledge on this topic outside of what I have read on this particular thread):

A female clitoral orgasm (the one I'm sure most of us are most familiar with) results in no actual ejaculating.
The typical male orgams does result in ejaculating.
Now the female g-spot orgasm does result in some form of ejaculating.... but the male g-shot orgasm (from what I've read here) results in no ejaculating... is it just me or is that somehow strange?
Perhaps the topic of male g-spots deserves a topic all of its own (unless it already does.. eh? you search masters out there??)... does anyone know more about it?

[Brit_Pair]

Originally posted by Miss_Piggy
Perhaps the topic of male g-spots deserves a topic all of its own (unless it already does.. eh? you search masters out there??)... does anyone know more about it?

Not that I'm putting myself forward as a 'search master', but . . .

Best anal/prostate stimulation???

[elelator_cpl]

I think we might like to try it one day, as we've even talked about it. But what with us already hard-swapping between the guys and gals already, it's less likely that we'll get the plastic contraption out in deference to the real thing

...and so it sits in our drawer, neglected


al&denise

[BiCoupleTN69]

Sounds like fun, We would be up for that!

The anti-bi male attitude is huge in the swing club community. We have tried to seek out other Bi-couple to "play" with to avoid the strange looks.

[remox]

You have hit on two of my biggest pet peeves in this lifestyle. Specifically, Homophobia, and Double standards.

It is generally acceptable and even encouraged for same sex activity between female participants.

Conversely it is discouraged and usually forbidden for same sex activity between male participants.

This later point is taken to extremes such that anything that might have a homosexual overtone, (such as anything to do with the male anus) is shunned.

However, it does rarely happen. Best of luck to you.

[IndyGirl2004]

I'm with you on that one. We were able to find a website for a club here in our town, but under the "rules" area it specially forbids any male bisexuality. My husband is not bi, but doesn't have a problem with it. I am bicurious. We've done nothing yet, but being a woman who's over forty, I'm just finally able to "come out of my shell" a bit and am finding myself more vocal and observant of intolerance in others. Everyone on the site has been so wonderful to us to answer our questions. There are many wonderful insites into the lifestyle and its workings, and we love reading the posts. The male/female double standards seem pretty prevalent (not here on the swingersboard, but just in general on sites and things). You see pics of women with women on personal websites, but no male/male for swingers. It's just interesting to me and a bit disappointing. Having said all of that, it's whatever floats your boat. I just wish that the clubs that are so against bi male activity would explain what their hangups are with this. I don't get it. Does anyone else know? I'd appreciate any rational reasoning here. soapbox

Hugs to you all. You're all wonderful

[Alura]

Originally posted by IndyGirl2004
I just wish that the clubs that are so against bi male activity would explain what their hangups are with this. I don't get it. Does anyone else know? I'd appreciate any rational reasoning here. soapbox

Hugs to you all. You're all wonderful

I'm not bi, so my thoughts on this subject have little value. In my opinion, though...

The clubs only reflect society. There are fewer bi men than women. Personally, I believe our upbringing causes this. When young girls play together, their games are more tender and caring. When young boys play together, they knock each other down, pick up the ball and run like hell. In order to stay in business, the clubs must give the public what is wanted.

In a conversation with an Army Colonel many years ago, I was told that one must use "gender enforcement" in raising boys. If a father finds a boy playing with a doll, he must take it away and replace it with a football or boxing gloves. Although this may be a bit extreme, it basically outlines how boys are brought up, even today.

If a person who had spent his life eating bland, spiceless foods were suddenly to dive into an authentic Mexican dinner, it's not likely he'd enjoy it.

Can you imagine what would have happened in this country had two men kissed on stage like Madonna and Brittany did?

Thanks, Indy Girl, we like you too.

Mr. Alura

[IndyGirl2004]

Awwww Mr. Alura, thanks!

I believe much of what you say as being the status quo thinking, but it seems to me that if we girls are more loving and caring then perhaps we should be giving dolls to the boys afterall. We need more loving and nurturing than gun play and fighting, and if giving some Barbie Dolls to the little guys helps in this, then point me to the nearest Walmart

As far as kissing at the awards go, which guys should we choose? I'm for Johnny Depp (ohhhhhh la la) and Antonio Banderas...............no, make that Johnny Depp and Jon BonJovi.....no, how about Heath Ledger and.............oh hell, just get them all out there!