How do you define fucking between two women

[pghfuncouple]

Afternoon,

Long time in the lifestyle, but after what seems forever, I've indulged my bi side. I guess it was there, but I might have missed the memo!

My husband wasn't surprised at all and all is well. This isn't one of those 'problem' posts.

The night after I had my first experience with another woman, my husband and I were talking. He asked me how it felt to 'fuck another woman?' We were in the hot tub drinking and talking so it wasn't as harsh as that sounded.
I said we didn't fuck, we had mutual oral sex. He laughed and said, "were there orgasms involved?" I said yes.

We've got a bet where the loser gives the other the hour long back rub. Our question is: how would you define 'fucking' between two women?

Thanks for listening!

[CXXC]

Mrs. CXXC defines "fucking" between two women as:

"When they use a dildo and mimic the actions of a man when he fucks a woman!"

I have to agree. Then again, we don't necessarily define oral pleasure (even to a happy ending) as sex!

BTW, Congrats!!!!! May you have MANY MANY MANY happy adventures!

I'd vote that some sort of penetration be involved. Think "finger fucking" on up to (past?) strap-on.

[Spoomonkey]

I think this is probably one of those semantic discussions. He meant sex and you though the actual act of penetration. CXXC said that they don't consider oral only as sex. In context, I understood your husband's question. It makes sense to me.

I wouldn't have put it that way when referring to Mrs Spoo with another woman, but regardless, I think we'd all have a similar picture in our head of two women together.

There are so many words used for sex and they tend to run together. Fuck in this case refers to the entire experience of sex with another, regardless of the acts performed. Not quite as clear as it could have been obviously, but in a hot tub, with drinks, and the vivid images of your wife with another woman - well, hell - I'd probably not pick the most accurate word, just the hot one tumbling around in my head.

Being horny affects cognition to the point of being practically debilitating for the above average guy*

Spoomonkey

*the average guy would be unsure of what to say and the below average guy would simply wet himself.

[SecretAsianMan]

If you only define "fucking" as a penetrative sexual act... then you'll have to ask if you "entered" her at any point. (Tongue, Fingers, Hands, Fist, Dildo or Vibe, etc)

If you define "fucking" as a general term for the entire sexual experience - then I'd say, "Yup - you fucked her"

How 'bout y'all just call it a draw on semantics and switch off two-hours a piece on the backrub? Or bring your friend back home with you and SHE gets the full four-hours from the both of you?

[fun4Ds]

Humping,.... There has to be some humping involved for me to call it fucking.

I have seen Mrsfun "dry humped" as well as with a strap-on used. It certainly looked like fucking to me...

Dildo use is Dildoing
Finger use is fingering
Oral is... well, Oral

My vote is humping has to happen, enjoy the back rub

[Tadahiko]

i toy myself off at least once a day. when i say i want to fuck that could be anything from oral to fingers to a cock.....anything thats with a partner not me alone with a toy.

anna on the other hand is much more of a cock hound. when she says she needs to be fucked, she means a male member......or something as much like it as possible....bouncing off her cervix.

[Tadahiko]

Originally Posted by fun4Ds

Humping,.... There has to be some humping involved for me to call it fucking.

I have seen Mrsfun "dry humped" as well as with a strap-on used. It certainly looked like fucking to me...

Dildo use is Dildoing
Finger use is fingering
Oral is... well, Oral

My vote is humping has to happen, enjoy the back rub

not to get too off topic here but i just dont get strapons. using your hips has got to be the most difficult awkward tiring way for a woman to get another woman off. men do it that way cause thats where there dicks are attached whats a womans excuse, except that she wants to imagine shes a man i guess. and unlike aman, a strapon only lets the fuckee get anything major out of it stimulation wise. even when im "fucking" anna deep hard and rough i would much rather get up close and work a dong or vibe my hands and add a little tongue action. if we both want to share the experience equally, thats what long rubber double dongs and bare pussy rubbing are for.

[FitCpl30s]

I agree, I think there has to be some type on penetration yet it be a finger or something. Oral is just oral to me. That is my opinion

[sweet_tna]

It's all semantics, and I do love a good argument. I say you two each plead your case to the other, using physical demonstrations as necessary.

=)

[fun4Ds]

Originally Posted by Tadahiko

not to get too off topic here but i just dont get strapons. using your hips has got to be the most difficult awkward tiring way for a woman to get another woman off.

I don't think it's too far off topic... I think anyone new to a womans bisexuality as a couple, should in fact, be prepared for the thought of strap-on's. We weren't, especially meeting and playing with a bisexual female couple; or at least one half was bi, the other was, you know, the one who wears the dick

The thing is, it is awkward. And I can testify Strap-ons do come with "blooper moments" Be prepared is all I can say, but your right again.. Maybe you could start a Strap on thread separately ?

men do it that way cause thats where there dicks are attached whats a womans excuse, except that she wants to imagine shes a man i guess.

Well, in some ways maybe so... Its a womans choice to feel however she may feel. They all have unique differences, as I see it...

I can say there are those that might use one, not to feel like a man, but because they don't NEED, a man. What can I say, I just went with the flow, ya know...

I'm just a guy, there will always be things I don't know about a woman, her bisexuality, or how they feel.

As far as the topic I still say there needs to be some humping, maybe it's just a guy thing, but come on. A little humping isn't too much to ask is it ?

[realcplub2]

Set your way back machines!!

Circa 1998.... Call President Clinton for the answer..

You didnt have sexual relations with that woman...

But seriously.. Oral does not intercourse make.. its a pitstop for refueling on the way to it... Now add in fingers toes hands who knows arms to the elbows.. and yeah..

[pghfuncouple]

Wow!
Thanks everyone. I'll be getting the back rub on Friday!

Now that I've won (and I'm pretty sure he won't be reading this thread), I can talk about what I saw on Swing Lifestyle. There is a profile, written by a woman, that said, "Beware, if I like you, I will fuck you." So now my question, and given what has been written, what do you think she means by that?

Thanks again, and lets move on to the strap on discussion!!! LOL

[fun4Ds]

It means there might be some humping

But, thats not an easy question

[Rockon]

I define fucking as sex with no love