Guys: What WOULD interest you in BI play?

[Cerberus]

Originally Posted by screaminggood

Hi Cerberus,

Would you be willing to give a referral to your massage therapist? We've always wanted to go to one but were always concerned about how to get a good one in the Dallas area. I would love to give my husband a massage with a "happy rimming ending" for Valentine's. You can email me directly at snorkmailbox-amail@yahoo.com if you don't want to do it over the entire internet, or if you want to ascertain that I really am a legit female part of a couple who won't harm your massage therapist. Thanks!

And I apologize to everyone else for using this thread for my personal note.

I asked her and she said no. She did tell me to refer you to the craigslist ads where it state draping optional This is a code word for happy endings from what she says

[MikeandDawn]

The only real bi- activity I've been involved in is some incidental sucking and licking while paying with Dawn, mainly due to the proximity of their cocks to Dawn's pussy. Then there's countless creampies both with and without the other male present. Only 2 other guys got into eating my creampies out of her, but never expressed any desire with further activity with me. I'm not really into the penile/anal penatration thing, although Dawn and I both do digital-anal penetration and rimming on each other.

[audiguyvdubgirl]

Nothing would interest me in BI play. I'm not intimidated by it and wouldn't fret to see it, but I wouldn't be interested.

[JustAskJulie]

Originally Posted by Spoomonkey

I don't say this to discourage them, but to encourage them. I think the greatest "sin" in life is to not be true to yourself.

Spoomonkey

Originally Posted by Spoomonkey

I agree with you. What we choose to do and what we choose to keep private are very personal choices.

I choose to keep my swinging a secret from many people

I hate to do this to ya, but aren't you contradicting yourself or at the very least also committing this "greatest sin" you speak of?

How is a bisexual man not coming out of the closet any different? He does so for the same reasons you choose to keep your swinging in the closet.

[JustAskJulie]

I usually avoid these threads because they always go the same way.... but for some reason I ended up reading this one. I must be bored.

Originally Posted by mackie44

The bisexual double standard never ceases to amaze me. Female bisexuality OK, male not OK? Yeah, right.

Overall, it should be pointed out that the bisexual double standard is an important clue to the true nature of swinging. It isn't a truly open-minded pursuit.

Actually, I'm guessing that for those straight females in swinging (of which there are more than you might think) female bisexuality is not ok. Actually, i don't know what's worse being a male bisexual and feeling that you have to keep it hidden or being a straight female swinger and having to put up with women touching you and assuming that just because you swing you must be bi.

Originally Posted by crazycatz

Thanks for that. I thought that most if not all clubs banned male on male activity - hypocritical if 'no means no' is what is used to 'protect' straight women from bi women....the same should apply to straight-bi men chat-ups.
Seems quite narrow-minded of the owners and the membership, to put it mildly.

I think I do get your point here. That clubs should not ban male bisexuality and that "no means no" should be enough. The problem isn't a matter of "protecting" anyone so much as it is that so many people (unfortunately) are turned off by the idea of two men together and don't want to see it. So to satisfy those people they "ban" it. I'm pretty sure that male bisexuality goes on in any swinger club with private rooms.

Originally Posted by Spoomonkey

Now - do I personally have a problem with such activity? No - not if it is private. If two men privately go up to a room, I could care less. And before you claim that I have a "double standard" (which you might, if you stopped trying to awkwardly force the word "hypocrite" into the conversation) I am actually not a big fan of public sex period.

So if you ran a club it would have no public sex areas, only private rooms?

Originally Posted by hamlet

I surely don't condemn people who do that kind of thing, but I really don't want to see it. I don't especially want to watch M/M play either, but it wouldn't bother me to know it was going on at a club I was attending. I suppose it all comes down to personal tastes/comfort levels.

Exactly and just as clubs choose to limit or prevent single males from attending or anything else they may limit or prevent they do so because that is what fits the tastes/comfort levels of the MAJORITY of their patrons.



Here's a question for you guys (because I really don't want to start yet another thread on this never-ending debate). Do any of you STRAIGHT guys ever enjoy having your wife (or another woman) give you a rim job or play with your ass in any way? Or would this also constitute a bisexual activity (even though it's being performed by a woman)?

[Spoomonkey]

Originally Posted by JustAskJulie

So if you ran a club it would have no public sex areas, only private rooms?

If I ran a club?

Well - as I have said in other places, clubs exist to make money. I really believe that. If I ran a club, I would hope that I would have a good feel for the clientèle. Though highly unlikely, if that clientèle shared my interests then, no, they wouldn't have public sex areas. They don't do anything for me.

I realize that I am in the minority on this - which is why I've never aspired to own a club.

Spoomonkey

[Spoomonkey]

Originally Posted by JustAskJulie

I hate to do this to ya, but aren't you contradicting yourself or at the very least also committing this "greatest sin" you speak of?

How is a bisexual man not coming out of the closet any different? He does so for the same reasons you choose to keep your swinging in the closet.

Actually when kept in context, I do not believe that I am contradicting myself. My original "be true to yourself" comment was made towards bisexual males who do two things:

1. List themselves as straight on swinger ad sites.
2. Claim that they are "victims" of a double standard when they come here.

My point being that their desire for acceptance is hindered by their own unwillingness to come out and be honest about who they are. If you want acceptance you must first let people know who they are accepting.

My second comment was based on me and my personal choices. You see, I have no "political agenda" when it comes to swinging. I do not care if it receives a greater acceptance than it already has. I don't care if the "vanilla world" continues to misunderstand what I do and why I do it.

I don't go to vanilla marriage discussion boards and tout the benefits of swinging nor do I complain that they misjudge us.

That is the difference between those two quotes. In context, they do not contradict each other - but I can see how they would appear that way when cut and pasted.

Basically, if bisexual men want to change the environment it is their responsibility to do so. If the best tactic they have is to come here and complain and expect straight men to step up and take on their cause for them... I'm afraid their battle may well be a futile one.

Spoomonkey

[good times]

Originally Posted by JustAskJulie

Actually, I'm guessing that for those straight females in swinging (of which there are more than you might think) female bisexuality is not ok. Actually, i don't know what's worse being a male bisexual and feeling that you have to keep it hidden or being a straight female swinger and having to put up with women touching you and assuming that just because you swing you must be bi.

This is so true.

Originally Posted by JustAskJulie

Here's a question for you guys (because I really don't want to start yet another thread on this never-ending debate). Do any of you STRAIGHT guys ever enjoy having your wife (or another woman) give you a rim job or play with your ass in any way? Or would this also constitute a bisexual activity (even though it's being performed by a woman)?

I don't think it could be considered bisexual activity, since thier isn't another guy involved, but it isn't something I would enjoy either. I am not into ass play of any kind though, so I guess this answer is no surprise.

Originally Posted by Spoomonkey

If I ran a club?

Well - as I have said in other places, clubs exist to make money. I really believe that. If I ran a club, I would hope that I would have a good feel for the clientèle. Though highly unlikely, if that clientèle shared my interests then, no, they wouldn't have public sex areas. They don't do anything for me.

I realize that I am in the minority on this - which is why I've never aspired to own a club.

Spoomonkey

I don't think you are that much in the minority Spoo. As you know, but others here might not, up until a couple of years ago the clubs in Reno only had public play areas. So, if you wanted to play at a club, you didn't have much choice, you played in the public play rooms or not at all. A couple of years ago a new club opened which has both private and public play rooms. The private rooms are used a lot, but the public play areas are hardly used at all. This indicates to me that most swingers, at least in our area, prefer private play rooms. That being said, were I to have a club, I would still have both. Because while the people who like to play in front of others may be a minority, their are still enough of them to warrant having a public play area in the club.

[JustAskJulie]

Originally Posted by Spoomonkey

Actually when kept in context, I do not believe that I am contradicting myself. My original "be true to yourself" comment was made towards bisexual males who do two things:

1. List themselves as straight on swinger ad sites.
2. Claim that they are "victims" of a double standard when they come here.

My point being that their desire for acceptance is hindered by their own unwillingness to come out and be honest about who they are. If you want acceptance you must first let people know who they are accepting.

thank you. I think you did a great job of clearing up the confusion that I was having at your two posts and showing the difference in the two things. Better in this post than in your previous.

[audiguyvdubgirl]

I personally like it when my girl rims me or gives me ass play. I just feel that if I want to try things, then she should be afforded those same opportunities. Last night, I was pegged for the first time. I don't know what the big deal is. It was uncomfortable to say the least intially, and I didn't feel these supposedly amazing sensations as a result. I do, however, have an understanding of what a woman goes through when a guys ask to do anal on her. I'm certainly not bi, just fair and I think in the interest of sexual exploration with your partner, like Stevie Wonder said, "All in love is fair."

[magnum]

Originally Posted by Cerberus

I can say truthfully i would not want to be a TOP. My interest is only in being a bottom so i could feel what a woman feel when a guy cums. I would also be interested in giving head to see what a woman goes through......

My massage therapist rims me sometimes and man alive does it send me through the roof

I have no interest in another guy...It was hard enough getting use to the male closeness when I started playing in MFM situations. That is as far as I go. To Each his own...

I am very interested in bi women play tough!

[SecretAsianMan]

I never thought I would be interested ... nowadays, ... dunno. I don't think it'd bother me to be given head by either gender. And I've enjoy getting rimmed by a gal (even had her insert a finger/tongue inside me anally) - probably wouldn't mind if she wanted to "peg" me.

I guess maybe my tastes are shifting a bit towards bi-curious. ((shrug))

[mywildside]

I have been with both, I love women and their sensuality, however, I really get turned on with guys. I am oral with guys and love to feel a hard cock. As for kissing men, there is no difference in sharing a kiss with men or women, both are equally exiting.

[lb4u1952]

hi ,just a comment. I have been straight mostly all my life. I had a few bi experiences in my life(sucked a few cocks). I fantasize alot about a dominant couple,that I am instructed to suck her husband off,or eat the cum from her pussy. Us men find it exciting seeing two woman get it on,I'm sure most women would fing it exciting to watch two guys having each other. Cant wait for the comments on this,or invites?
len

[lb4u1952]

too bad--always keep it exciting--have a open mind