Guys: What WOULD interest you in BI play?

[Chicup]

Originally Posted by mackie44

The bisexual double standard never ceases to amaze me. Female bisexuality OK, male not OK? Yeah, right.

Why don't you just admit that swinging is another form of patriarchy - ie. where the sexual scenarios are controlled by strictly heterosexual men for the benefit of strictly heterosexual men. This includes catering to the girl-on-girl fetishes of many straight guys. Women go along with it because they want to please their husbands and boyfriends.

Overall, it should be pointed out that the bisexual double standard is an important clue to the true nature of swinging. It isn't a truly open-minded pursuit.

20 posts, 19 on male homosexually.

I think someone has an axe to grind.

Get over it, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, obviously don't understand swinging motivations for the majority of couples, and are trying to force your own personal views upon people who want no part of them.

[Thrax]

Originally Posted by mackie44

The bisexual double standard never ceases to amaze me. Female bisexuality OK, male not OK? Yeah, right.

Why don't you just admit that swinging is another form of patriarchy - ie. where the sexual scenarios are controlled by strictly heterosexual men for the benefit of strictly heterosexual men. This includes catering to the girl-on-girl fetishes of many straight guys. Women go along with it because they want to please their husbands and boyfriends.

Overall, it should be pointed out that the bisexual double standard is an important clue to the true nature of swinging. It isn't a truly open-minded pursuit.

Well, then, luckily for you, and me, and like-minded open-minded folks interested in swinging, there is this Swingers Board forum that many of us patronize (that is, we "participate in in an active way" rather than "adopt an air of condescension toward").

Obviously there IS a bisexual double standard in the vanilla world, and to a great extent it exists in SwingWorld. I think that it's great that the majority of the members of this board -- at least the ones who are regular participants -- feel that whatever is agreed to between consenting adults is okay, so the bisexuality issue is neutralized. Most of the members of this Board consider bisexuality okay for those who are interested in it. Arguments seem to appear here only if bisexuality is assumed or forced.

IMHO, swinging in and of itself is neutral; it cannot be either negative or positive, patriarchial or matriachal, open-minded or close-minded, etc. If one wants to engage in it, that's okay. If not, that's okay, too.

Overall, it should be pointed out that the bisexual double standard is an important clue to the true nature of swinging. It isn't a truly open-minded pursuit.

Swinging as a pursuit is only as "open-minded" as the "pursuers". Most of the posters on SB appear to be pretty open-minded with regard to bisexuality, although some of them are not interested in bisexuality. I would think these educated swingers would be great people to have on your side if you are interested in bisexual swinging.

Sorry I can't speak for ALL swingers here.

Thrax

[crazycatz]

Is it true that male bisexual activity is still prohibited in clubs in the US?

[lovinher]

Originally Posted by crazycatz

Is it true that male bisexual activity is still prohibited in clubs in the US?

Where did you here that from?

[Spoomonkey]

Originally Posted by mackie44

Why don't you just admit that swinging is another form of patriarchy - ie. where the sexual scenarios are controlled by strictly heterosexual men for the benefit of strictly heterosexual men. This includes catering to the girl-on-girl fetishes of many straight guys. Women go along with it because they want to please their husbands and boyfriends.

Because to do so would be bull shit...

Originally Posted by crazycatz

Is it true that male bisexual activity is still prohibited in clubs in the US?

No. Male bisexuality is not prohibited in clubs in the US. In fact, I am unaware of that ever being the case. In the US, the clubs are private and have little restriction. That said, the clubs do operate independently and some do choose to adopt rules regarding male bisexuality. That is the right of the private club - and these rules usually reflect the ownership as well as the general attitude of the majority of the club members.

Spoomonkey

[crazycatz]

Originally Posted by Spoomonkey

some do choose to adopt rules regarding male bisexuality. That is the right of the private club - and these rules usually reflect the ownership as well as the general attitude of the majority of the club members.

Spoomonkey

Thanks for that. I thought that most if not all clubs banned male on male activity - hypocritical if 'no means no' is what is used to 'protect' straight women from bi women....the same should apply to straight-bi men chat-ups.
Seems quite narrow-minded of the owners and the membership, to put it mildly.

[spectraschain]

well, i WOULD be interested in knowing what it's like to top....(that would be the PITCHER, homophobes).

been catchin' awhile....

[spectraschain]

then, the masses realized....we really haven't missed this guy as much as he thinks...

[Spoomonkey]

Originally Posted by crazycatz

hypocritical

Please...

Define the word hypocritical and then tell me how it applies to your point.

And are you also suggesting that a private club should not have the right to make rules that they are comfortable with and which will make their "night out" more enjoyable?



Spoomonkey

[spectraschain]

Seems quite narrow-minded

Welcome to swingersboard, Ireland...little if anything ever changes here...
Rummage through the underbrush, target prey, pounce...

This needs not be a forum...better a site built on stickies...

[Spoomonkey]

Originally Posted by spectraschain

This needs not be a forum...

And you're here why?

Spoomonkey

[spectraschain]

Stumbled in by accident...really wish i hadn't. Damn bookmarks...

See ya in another six months...hope none of you have died by then...

[Thrax]

Originally Posted by spectraschain

well, i WOULD be interested in knowing what it's like to top....(that would be the PITCHER, homophobes).

been catchin' awhile....

Is it my bad memory or did Yogi Berra say the same thing?



Thrax

[crazycatz]

Originally Posted by Spoomonkey

Please...

Define the word hypocritical and then tell me how it applies to your point.

And are you also suggesting that a private club should not have the right to make rules that they are comfortable with and which will make their "night out" more enjoyable?



Spoomonkey

Not to be cheeky, but there are lots of dictionaries for that purpose.
It's hypocritical in the sense that if you assume no means no, then you would never have to enter into bisexual activities with a man and therefore the presence of such activity in a club shouldn't be an issue, i.e. there is no need for it to be banned.

Why does the absence of bisexual MALE activity make the night more enjoyable?
Also, as I pointed out before, there are straight females who attend the clubs who are not into bi female activity but there aren't clubs which put in place rules and regulations regarding that. That's why I see it as hypocritical.

I think it feeds into societal norms around female bisexuality being ok, trendy even, and certainly a turn on for men, while male bisexuality is just not seen as acceptable.

[texas_bandits]

thought about this topic . (not much but alittle) brief conversation with the wife ..and heres what I came up with ...we are straight , prefer to play straight , while the wife says she not totally opposed to a bi encounter, and if things clicked between her an another lady "well who knows" ...that being said this is my view ...if you are bi , or curious then great its Whatever Trips Ur Trigger, but I just dont see myself bumping uglies with another guy , holds absolutly no appeal
thanks for listening