Bi sexual / Bi curious Ladies

[hotqld]

As we get more experianced with swinging 1-2 yrs now, we are surprised that in the majority of profiles when we talk with other couples that girl / girl play is a condition of swinging.
We would estimate 90% of couples out there insist on some girl/girl play, originally we thought swinging was about swapping partners, we are curious how many others have found the same. It certainly limits the playing field if our ladies are straight!

[LFM2]

How interesting. I've never seen a profile that says girl/girl play is a must, in my neck of the woods. Not saying that you haven't, I just haven't seen any profiles like that here.

There are a few that state girl/girl play would be great, but is not a must.
It would definitely limit the field if g/g play was must and you're both straight. I'm one of those who think that g/g play is wonderful but not a must. Our profile does not state that, but if it happens, it's a bonus. As much as I like playing with girls, I love playing with men even more.

Mrs. LFM

[ohash01]

I say that most women who are either bi-sexual or bi-curious are more than willing to swing straight if that's the case. I mark myself as bi-curious, because I will only bi-swing with women that really click. Most of the time, even though I'm "marked" as bi-curious, I will swing straight.

Do you ask if they would mind if there isn't girl/girl play? What we've discovered through simple questioning is that often women mark bi-curious and are just waiting for the PERFECT female...so unless your wife is their idea of the PERFECT female, they probably aren't going to want to participate in bi-activity anyway.

[DGrey]

Our profile states that we prefer the female half of the couple to be bi or bicurious. I am bi and we both find the interaction between females something exciting. We just like to know that if in the heat of the moment, my hands or mouth should find their way to the other woman, she isn't going to flip out because she's not at least bi-curious.

E

[Chicup]

Originally Posted by hotqld

As we get more experianced with swinging 1-2 yrs now, we are surprised that in the majority of profiles when we talk with other couples that girl / girl play is a condition of swinging.
We would estimate 90% of couples out there insist on some girl/girl play, originally we thought swinging was about swapping partners, we are curious how many others have found the same. It certainly limits the playing field if our ladies are straight!

I don't think its quite 90% but we have encounted this on LL.

[good times]

Originally Posted by Chicup

I don't think its quite 90% but we have encounted this on LL.

Same here on Swing Lifestyle and even once in a while at the clubs, no where near 90% though.

Most are as the others have said they list themselves as Bi/Bi-curious but are willing to play with straight folks.

We have noticed a growing number of what we have come to refer to as, "married lesbians" though. These are couples who got into swinging so that the woman could play only with other women, usually the guy isn't allowed to do anything but watch, sometimes not even that. Their are three or four of those on Swing Lifestyle in our area that I know of, and we see a few of them now and then at the clubs.

[LFM2]

Originally Posted by good times

We have noticed a growing number of what we have come to refer to as, "married lesbians" though. These are couples who got into swinging so that the woman could play only with other women, usually the guy isn't allowed to do anything but watch, sometimes not even that. Their are three or four of those on Swing Lifestyle in our area that I know of, and we see a few of them now and then at the clubs.

No kiddin'? We don't have clubs here and I've never seen an Swing Lifestyle profile that said that. I live such a sheltered swinging life!

[Chicup]

Originally Posted by good times

Same here on Swing Lifestyle and even once in a while at the clubs, no where near 90% though.

Most are as the others have said they list themselves as Bi/Bi-curious but are willing to play with straight folks.

We have noticed a growing number of what we have come to refer to as, "married lesbians" though. These are couples who got into swinging so that the woman could play only with other women, usually the guy isn't allowed to do anything but watch, sometimes not even that. Their are three or four of those on Swing Lifestyle in our area that I know of, and we see a few of them now and then at the clubs.

Well LL in our area is VERY party and VERY GG oriented.

I wouldn't be surprised if the number of GG MUST play couples on LL was close to 80%.

Swing Lifestyle seems to be a lot lower in this reguard for some reason.

[hotqld]

We Guess the true percentage of couples swinging is close to 70 to 90 % where one of the partners are expecting a bi experiance.

Does the definition of swinging need to change.....most say it could be your nxt door neighbours Mr and Mrs Avearge.....but if a bi tendancy is the modern way and a condition.......it certainly does not match most definitions of swinging.

It was put to us by a couple with a bi lady......this is the modern way, previously the ladies were prevented from stateing their true wants!

[WesternSwing]

Myself, I've never seen profiles demanding FF play unless the couple was simply after FMF and not looking for other couples or single men. In our experience even the fully bi-women (meaning not "bi-curious") don't insist on FF play if the other woman isn't comfortable with it. It is something they like to do, but not something they have to do.

Mr. WS

[Chicup]

Originally Posted by WesternSwing

Myself, I've never seen profiles demanding FF play unless the couple was simply after FMF and not looking for other couples or single men. In our experience even the fully bi-women (meaning not "bi-curious") don't insist on FF play if the other woman isn't comfortable with it. It is something they like to do, but not something they have to do.

Mr. WS

Its not something thats on the profile in most cases its just expected and won't come out until after a few emails/chat.

[bill&sabrina]

Whats so shocking about bisexual people wanting to satisfy the desire for both sexes? So they aren't going to take one for the team, and settle for not getting same sex play. Damn selfish bisexuals.

Bill

[Chicup]

Originally Posted by bill&sabrina

Whats so shocking about bisexual people wanting to satisfy the desire for both sexes? So they aren't going to take one for the team, and settle for not getting same sex play. Damn selfish bisexuals.

Bill

If you are bisexual how is it 'taking one for the team'?

You take one for the team when you have no desire, if you are bisexual you wouldn't desire both and if you could only have one it should still be ok.

No what we are talking about are couples where its all about GG play and if the guys get some its an afterthought.

[Swingercast]

Curious to hear from the women regarding their own personal interpretations of some of the bi labels/classifications? on profiles.

What exactly does it mean to you in terms of play when you see this on a profile...

Bi Curious?

Bi Comfy?

Bi Sexual?

Bi Social?

It would also be helpful if you would also mention what you put on your profiles and how you see yourself and how you play.

These terms are very confusing to me and I asked some women at a club last weekend what these terms meant to them and I got completely different answers and personal interpretations of these "labels" from four different women who all are very experienced swingers and active in the online dating scene. They were all very confident of their own understandings of these terms as being generally what others thought as well and seemed very surprised and uncomfortable hearing their friends interpretations of the terms being so different from their own. I don't have much experience with the profiles and online dating as my husband and I most often go to clubs....so these terms are confusing as hell to me...especially the bi-comfy one. I don't usually have to use any of these terms in the club setting which is a relief. If I am forced to choose one of the terms in writing, I seem to most often choose bisexual based on my lifestyle experiences but I do not personally consider myself bisexual(In my mind I'm just sexual)...in label land I think I might even be considered bi comfy but I am finding out this term(and the others) seem so ambiguous in meaning to other women in the Lifestyle too. Hell, maybe it is just me and my aversion to labels in general,but, I sure would like to hear other women's thoughts on this!
Allie

[bill&sabrina]

Originally Posted by Chicup

If you are bisexual how is it 'taking one for the team'?

You take one for the team when you have no desire, if you are bisexual you wouldn't desire both and if you could only have one it should still be ok.

For some bisexual people not getting same sex play might be ok. That doesn't mean every bisexual person should be ok with it.

Originally Posted by Chicup

No what we are talking about are couples where its all about GG play and if the guys get some its an afterthought.

This wasn't stated in the original post, and if implied I missed it. I think this came about by way of a hijacking.