Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Straight

[Spoomonkey]

Originally Posted by good times

as soon as he see's her he's to busy "spanking the monkey" for that poo flinging business.

I don't believe in spanking...

Time outs are more humane...



Spoomonkey

[good times]

Originally Posted by Mrs Spoomonkey

That's kind of sad since one of my favorite scenes in a Ginger Lynn porn movie was two couples on a camping trip doing it around the fire

Mrs Spoomonkey

I saw that movie, I think we even have it on tape, looks like good campfire fun to me too.

[LikeMinds321]

Mrs Spoo and Good Times -

I believe monkeys have to be kept on a leash at public campsites.

Does the Spoo like being collared? <EG>

LM

[good times]

Originally Posted by LikeMinds321

Mrs Spoo and Good Times -

I believe monkeys have to be kept on a leash at public campsites.

Does the Spoo like being collared? <EG>

LM

The lake we camp at most is on a reservation and has no leash laws at all, what luck.

[Spoomonkey]

Originally Posted by LikeMinds321

Does the Spoo like being collared? <EG>

That depends...

You holding the leash, dear?



Spoomonkey

[TexasBlondie]

Wow!

I read this post's title thinking that the subject was something totally different than it actually is!

I thought that this post was by the female half of Spoomonkey as it seems that the female half of couples in the lifestyle are expected to be Bi. I have never seen the guy to be pressured by anyone to be anything but straight.

Now, all that said, our female is Bi and that is why we are here in the lifestyle... but that said.... it never ceases to amaze me that the female half of a couple is EXPECTED to be Bi!

Hugs,
Texas Blondie

[Chicup]

Spoomonkey - You do know that there is a special place in forum hell for people who hijack their own threads

[stoutgatte]

Originally Posted by Chicup

You do know that there is a special place in forum hell for people who hijack their own threads

Somehow it shouldn't be this hard to keep a thread on track... On the other hand, it would've been a flame war long ago if Spoo didn't keep us sane with his insane behaviour

Originally Posted by leftcoastcouple

Hell, who'd have thought just a few years ago that women would be so relatively free to declare themselves bisexual? Maybe with that barrier broken down, society will continue to evolve, allowing men to be more honest in their sexual self-exploration and more free to declare when they discover that their orientation is "somewhere in the middle."

Society has a big hand in so many men being "100% straight". Bi-sexuality in men are frowned upon in a big way, and men are raised not to have interest in other men, actually, to look down on those who do. Women are raised with similar values, but all round we have pictures/movies/stories about f-f interaction because it sells to men, as a result the lines are very much blurred there... There are some interesting threads on the board about the whole: "Why men are less bi than women" thing... Like this one. Interesting that 75% of the women voted in favour of seeing their hubbies in a bi-situation.

Originally Posted by Spoomonkey

The issue for me is when people insist that we are ALL in the middle somewhere. Frankly, I would think that this would be every bit as insulting to homosexuals and bisexuals as it is to those of us who are straight.

I'm not saying you are in the middle, I'm saying you are on the extreme, just more like a 95 - 99% than a 100% straight, ie, only in truly exceptional circumstances would you consider it. If you were i the middle, this conversation would never take place...

SIDENOTE: I'm using Spoo in the example because the thread started with him complaining, me making a statement about what he said, etc... etc... In no way am I implying I know Spoo well enough to make assumptions about his character or sexual behaviour. My statements go way beyond that, I'm making assumptions about the whole of mankind, men and women alike...

it never ceases to amaze me that the female half of a couple is EXPECTED to be Bi!

She is? Why didn't someone tell me that??? Why didn't someone tell my WIFE that??? I'd love it, but I think I have one of the few women in the lifestyle that isn't bi... It'll be one of those fantasies sitting on the shelf for a loong time... Guess we need those too eh?

[Mrs Spoomonkey]

Originally Posted by stoutgatte

I'm not saying you are in the middle, I'm saying you are on the extreme, just more like a 95 - 99% than a 100% straight, ie, only in truly exceptional circumstances would you consider it. If you were i the middle, this conversation would never take place...

She is? Why didn't someone tell me that??? Why didn't someone tell my WIFE that??? I'd love it, but I think I have one of the few women in the lifestyle that isn't bi... It'll be one of those fantasies sitting on the shelf for a loong time... Guess we need those too eh?

First stoutgatte I have enjoyed your posts and bantering with Mr Spoo as well as appreciated the PM's between you two and the fun of having someone to debate and offer opinions to without getting viscious. That said I (for the first time I think) am going to play devils advocate

So is your wife 100% straight or is she in that rhelm of yours that is 95-99% and in the exceptional circumstance of the right person, right time, right place she might be willing to try a little bi with another woman?????

Interesting how we have to watch our theories when they turn and point back to us.

Just thowing it out there for the sake of the thread.

Mrs Spoomonkey

[Spoomonkey]

Originally Posted by Chicup

Spoomonkey - You do know that there is a special place in forum hell for people who hijack their own threads

Hmmm... Forum hell... Isn't that where political discussions are legal?



Spoomonkey

[Mrs Spoomonkey]

Originally Posted by good times

The lake we camp at most is on a reservation and has no leash laws at all, what luck.

Free roaming Monkeys! Now that's the place to go for campfire sex!!

Mrs Spoomonkey

[stoutgatte]

Originally Posted by Mrs Spoomonkey

That said I (for the first time I think) am going to play devils advocate

YAY!!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you...

So is your wife 100% straight or is she in that rhelm of yours that is 95-99% and in the exceptional circumstance of the right person, right time, right place she might be willing to try a little bi with another woman?????

She's tried a bi experience and found that it didn't do anything for her, but at the same time says that the right person might be different, so I guess 95% would be just about right Note to self: watch your wording in this thread

She asked me last night if I've found that 1 person in the right circumstances yet... Had to say no to that one, but I know I would go along if the situation was perfect. I'm probably more along the 90% line, ie I'm not looking for it, and some guy would have to be very lucky to get me to try it.

Interesting how we have to watch our theories when they turn and point back to us.

Yeah, is fun eh?

[IndyGirl2004]

We have family members who are gay and they feel that some gays are born that way and others are "converts" *S*. We haven't discussed the "you must have gay in you somewhere" comments, but I'm going to see what their opinions are about that. The family members I'm speaking of have been married to those of the opposite sex and have had children, and enjoyed fairly good marriages for a time. In my experience with famiy and friends, there's a lot of baggage around being gay. No one person is exactly like another, nor should she be. Some people might be gay because of problems with the other sex, but the people I know who are gay are so because it's their natural inclination. Maybe, they got off track due to what society and family expected, but they feel they are where they "belong" now.

A thought struck me as I read Mr. Spoo's comment about his friend, the one who said he might not be realizing his full sexuality unless he explored the possibility that he might be gay. Is it at all possible that the other person is trying to rationalize his own gayness. Is it possible he doesn't feel truly accepted by those who aren't gay unless those people admit that they might be a scosh (love that word) gay, too? Weird thought, huh? May be silly thought, but it just popped into my head.

I don't think anyone should try to push another to "be" anything. Each to her own or his own as long as no one is getting hurt. As Forrest Gump said "that's all I have to say about that"

By the way, you guys are pretty funny and it's always interesting to hear what others have to say.

Hugs!

[stoutgatte]

I think we're all happy to admit that human sexuality is a sliding scale, ie 0 - 100% straight...

My point is, and I hope you get it by now, that we never ever can reach the 0% or 100% mark. As in many aspects of life it is possible to get close, but to say you are 100% or 0% would be a fallacy. And this is the point.

I'm not saying there is an undiscovered side of you that you need to explore in order to be a happy person, I'm not saying you are lying to yourself, I am asking you to consider that there are circumstances that you may not fathom at the moment where you may actually enjoy it.

It all boils down to semantics, as I said earlier in this thread. If you believe yourself to be 100% straight, be 100% straight. As long as you enjoy it...

I really enjoyed this thread, it was fun. But I think it's time to move on...

[Spoomonkey]

Originally Posted by IndyGirl2004

Is it at all possible that the other person is trying to rationalize his own gayness.

I actually think that is it. People who are secure in their homosexuality don't seem to have a problem with my heterosexuality... People who are secure in the bisexuality don't seem to have a problem either.

Interesting that this thread hasn't been responded to much by bisexual men - and when it has it has pretty much agreed that it is possible for a guy to be straight. Why? Because men who are openly "bi" in the lifestyle most of the time have a pretty good handle on it. But, I think some folks feel the need to justify what they are doing by trying to prove that it is a natural thing that everybody feels...

The bottom line is - I know myself. I know myself better than anyone in the world - except my wife - and she is doing her best to explain to me what I don't get yet

To tell me that I am in denial about my sexuality is to assume that you know me better than I do... Or to call me a liar... Either of which is deeply offensive*. I am the "rare" 100%. I am straight. I did not choose to be this way - and it was difficult for my parents to deal with when they found out about it when I was twelve and buried in a pile of their porn mags... I am not sure that my dear mother will ever get over my blatant display of heterosexuality...

If I could have spared her that pain, I would have...



Spoomonkey

*This line is directed at the person who confronted me earlier in the week and caused me to start the thread - not those of you who have generously shared your opinions and input.