bi-sexual vs. lesbian/gay

[sepacouple]

Thanks for the replies, very interesting and informative.

Just as clarification the conversation we were having was one about the terminology, it was not one about her getting involved with another woman, I respect her wishes on that and she has provided me much excitement in many situations without having to involve another woman.

[sensuality]

I got here a bit late, but this is an interesting post.I was just on another site and answered the same type of question
I was bi-curious...meaning I was "curious" about having sex with another female.
Now that I have had the facelick pleasure of the experience, I know I'm bi-sexual.The key word being -sexual- I make love to,fall in love with, and fuck men and I like to fuck women.I do not have any desires whatsoever to fall in love with a woman or be her girlfriend...it is purely sexual. That is where a lot of people get confused, you think because you are "sexually" attracted to a member of the same sex that OMG!! ,I'm gay or I'm a lesbian{Which isn't a bad thing,BTW}.Basically, define it as if you have feelings other than lust for a member of the same sex and you really think you could fall in love,that's the difference right there. That's how you know if you're just biSEXUAL or if you really are Gay or Lesbian...But, just because you may have sex with someone of the same gender,that does not mean you are gay or lesbian.

[BradAndJanet]

sensuality, I know just what you mean. I'm bi-sexual, as you say, in that I enjoy having sex with women and men, but the idea of falling in love with a man seems very foreign to me.

Here's a strange thought: Can one be straight-bi-sexual or gay/lesbian-bi-sexual? (If you followed that logic, let me know! )

Personally though, I dislike labels and would rather just ask a person, "So, what are you into?"

-B

[Vespertine]

Originally Posted by BradAndJanet

Here's a strange thought: Can one be straight-bi-sexual or gay/lesbian-bi-sexual? (If you followed that logic, let me know! )


-B

Yes! My brother is gay but sometimes will play with a woman if the mood is right.
I also know of a few other gay men that will occasionally venture over to the hetero side of the fence.
My hairstylist is as gay as they come (think Carson from Queer Eye) but he admitted to me that he really loves the taste of pussy.
But I also know a LOT of gay men that wouldn't go there for all the money in the world. Very similar to how a lot of straight men feel about m/m activity.

[Miss_Piggy]

Originally Posted by BradAndJanet

Here's a strange thought: Can one be straight-bi-sexual or gay/lesbian-bi-sexual? (If you followed that logic, let me know! )

Not strange at all, Brad. I was thinking the exact same thing while reading this thread. I could see myself in a relationship with a woman. It doesn't seem like an unnatural idea to me at all. Now, by some of the definitions above I would not be bi-sexual but rather lesbian. So I think that would make me a lesbian-bi-sexual. While those who want sex with members of the same sex but would only be interested in a relationship (as well as sex of course) with members of the opposite sex would be straight-bi-sexual.

:rollseyes You're right. Stick to, "So, what are you into?"

[xxoticangel]

Think about sexaulity as a spectrum where an individual could plot at anytime where they were on it. At one end of the spectrum you have heterosexuality, in the middle is bisexuality, and at the other end is gay. Bi-sexuality would then be seen as a combination of hetrosexaulity and gay. Each segment would then include experiences, preferences, and desires. In theory you could move along the spectrum in any direction and move from one end to the other.

Using a sliding scale with 0 being "I would get NO pleasure from a sexual encounter with someone of the same sex and could never become romantic with a same sex person", 50 being "I enjoy sex with either sex and would fall in love with the right person regardless of gendr" and 100 being "I ONLY get pleasure from a sexual encounter with someone of the same sex and could never become romantic with a person of the opposite sex" we put ourselves at 25 for her and 10 for me. Using this scale anything more than 0 and less that 100 would be considered bi-sexual.

I have had two encounters with men, the first was with a tranny girl and the other during a MFM. Both were while swinging with my wife. In the heat of the moment I enjoyed both encounters but I do not find myself attracted to men at all. Under the right circumstances with the right partner I would probably do it again but I would never seek it out and if I never do it again it wouldn't bother me. To put it anothere way, I've had Indian (Hindi) food a couple of times. It was ok but I can live without it and would not suggest an Indian dinner.

Angel, on the other hand, has had several girl/girl encounters. According to her she occasionally finds her attracted to another woman but would never consider a romantic relationship with another woman or consider giving up men.

[GorAndLor]

I think of myself as a straight male, but sometimes when we get together with a few couples that we have known for years, us guys will perform oral on 1 another, we have tasted 1 anohter off the ladies so what the hell is wrong with getting it from the source, but its always done in the group thing its never when when its just us guys. At parties Lori likes to do oral on guys the sneak up on me & give me wet sloppy kiss with a load in her mouth, to tease her if she has the guy about to cum I sometimes push her out of the way & finish the job then kiss her. but thats only if I'm comfortable with whats going on

[FlyBiNiter]

Originally Posted by Vespertine

I use the same definitions as you do.

Although I do add in "bi-curious".

To me bi-curious means you don't play alone with the same sex but will play with the same sex if the opposite sex is involved.

You follow?

I have to disagree here, just a bit. Bi-CURIOUS means just that.. curiosity about same-sex play. What you describe would be more accurately called Bi-friendly, or Bi-playful. Bi-Curious would indicate that a person is not sure, but would like to find out. For example, I term myself Bi-curious. I have only had one Bi encounter, but the other person didn't really participate, so I still don't know what it would be like if we were both "going for it" and thus my curiosity. I can't say yet that I'm truly Bi, because I don't think I'll know that until I've truly experienced it.

As for the original question, Bi-sexual people enjoy sexual contact with both sexes. Just that simple, in my book. Lesbian/Gay people enjoy sex with other people of the same sex. Straight/Hetero people enjoy sex with people of the opposite sex, and do not seek out same sex encounters. In my opinion, even those who are "Bi-playful" are just a little Bi. They may not seek out bi action, but if they participate, and enjoy it, they are a little Bi, as far as I'm concerned. It IS a sliding scale, and some are more or less Bi than others.

JMO

[parcarcaliente]

Once again semantics appear and so all ends in a word play, but I would agree with Vespertine, in general 4 levels:
Heterosexual: Just engages in sexual intercourse with opposite sex
Bi-Curious/Friendly: Engages in sexual caresses or acts with same sex in some circumstances, not always. (Usually there are two types, active and passive)
Bisexual: Engages in sexual intercourse or interaction with both sexes without any problems. Bisexual are usually active.
Lesbian/Gay: Engages in sexual intercourse only with people of same sex.

I think the relationship issues is irrelevant, since swingers aren't looking for that kind of relationship, (it can happen but I don't think it's the purpose of it).

Take care all
Hugs

[good times]

Originally Posted by parcarcaliente

Heterosexual: Just engages in sexual intercourse with opposite sex
Bi-Curious/Friendly: Engages in sexual caresses or acts with same sex in some circumstances, not always. (Usually there are two types, active and passive)
Bisexual: Engages in sexual intercourse or interaction with both sexes without any problems. Bisexual are usually active.
Lesbian/Gay: Engages in sexual intercourse only with people of same sex.

This is excellent, I need to add it to my dictionary.

Mrs. GT is what you list as Bi-curious/friendly (More friendly than curious and above the waist play only). While she will not initiate anything she will participate in mild same sex petting. And although she isn't interested in women in a sexual way she isn't repulsed by it as I would be if another man attempted to start fondling me. I think your four catagories cover the range pretty good.