On Premise Club LONG ISLAND

[ENCRYPTEDTX]

Hi all,

I am just back from a great vacation in NY. I got to enjoy my Handyman skills, meet some PHENOMENAL people and attend a couple of on premise clubs. Those were the Highs.......

I arranged my travel times so that I could attend a Friday party at a club (any club from VA to Montreal) and found a club in Long Island that allowed single guys. I am not new to this or the club scene, but as you all know, each and every club is different. The club was listed on Swing Lifestyle, and I looked at who was attending in the events column. It appeared a few couples, a few single ladies and even some single guys had signed up for the event. So far so good.

I used a rest stop along the way to "freshen up" touching up my shave with an electric razor, brushing my teeth, and changing into a clean pressed shirt and dabbing the tiniest amount of aftershave on. (Just cause I like the smell of aftershave doesnt mean she will! Go light!) I arrived on time and met the greeter at the door. I was ready for a DATE.

I entered the club and did not get a tour or House rules. Should I strip down and begin the Creepy Single Male wank right here? Is that what was expected of me? Using my better judgment, I went to the bar and introduced myself to the bartender, a cute 30's female. I am a total lush and after throwing back at least 7 or 8 stiff bottles of water (straight up please!) I had the liquid courage to ask about the private rooms and what to expect from patrons on a normal Friday night.

It seems Fridays can be busy, with the club turning away single guys allowing the 30 to 50 couples some "room". Or so the story goes.....

I counted a total of 8 couples entering and leaving. About 3 stuck around and let the single guys attempt to devour them. The guys that were making bombing runs towards them were guys who had ponied up the dough and felt they were owed something in return. I honestly overheard one guy tell that to the bartender!

I knew I was amongst the most clueless of singles but opted to stick it out a bit longer. A diamond shines in the rough right? Cream rises to the top? Well a single lady and her GAY friend walked in I began talking to her and the bartender. Some younger, inexperienced guys came over and joined the conversation and I was "schooled" about the lifestyle. What I have been doing all along has been wrong...or so it seemed as they told it.....

I left a bit later, and the only positive thing from the evening was talking to the wife of one of the couples as she was at the bar in passing.

Play or no Play this was a bad experience. The attractive $30 cover for single guys brings in too many non-swingers off the street. People that do not have a respect for the lifestyle or the people in it. I was actually wishing I had paid more in cover charge to weed out the non-serious people. Everything about the club screamed "this is a business" and the single guys walking in the door proved it. While I understand business models, and know the profit is in single guys, this was over the top!

Chalk this one up to experience.

- There is nothing wrong with single guys when they respect the lifestyle and people in it. Guys off the street are not swingers. These are not the people you want to have positive experiences with.

- Clubs have off nights and maybe the Mets/Yankees game was more fun? Could this club have nights where the dance floor is packed? Sure! One trip would not stop me from returning to the club and giving it a total thumbs down.

- Conversation and hanging out with quality people are more important and more memorable than playing in poor situations.

Kyle

[fun4Ds]

Thank you Kyle, for sharing your thougts.

It's guys like you that we hope have such a genuine appreciation of the lifestyle.

I'm sure the club owners where you have visited appreciate your candor. Its a shame to hear about the man you overheard have feelings he was "owed" anything.

I mean really, as a couple we pay at the door as well. We never feel anyone "owes" us anything. We pay, to show support of the clubs we attend, not who we have sex with.

The payment for us, is grattitude for a place to go when we want to.

I'll bet you share that grattitude to the club owners...

[two4youinswva]

Thanks for sharing your experience.

If you would, check the New York Clubs listings and see if the club is there. If it is, would you write a review?