What would you do ?

[fun4Ds]

I had a male half of a couple contact me in chat on Swing Lifestyle with a proposition to trick his wife. I couldn't have copied the chat session so I steered him to our yahoo account just so Mrs.fun could see this. I had to lead him on in utter disbelief. He wanted to meet me without my wife at first then plainly asked me to cheat on Swing Lifestyle. He does this all with men after his wife is passed out. Except one couple so far. I know I couldn't get the first chat copied but on Swing Lifestyle he freaked me out asking me to play with his wife passed out. Am I seeing this wrong ? Im not a good chatter and miss the context sometimes but damb..Do men play this angle ? Are their women out there who actually pass out to swing ? I had one woman actuall pass out on me once I couldnt have done something like this then. Check this out true chat today



me: hello

him : (6/24/2008 10:58:09 AM): hi
me (6/24/2008 10:58:14 AM): had company sorry
him (6/24/2008 10:58:25 AM): who is this?
me: ***** from our chat on Swing Lifestyle
him: ok...is this ********?
him: very hott wife u have
me: thanks
him: she game for anything?
me: depends on the moment, no anal
him: omg,,,,she is wild....mmmmmmmm ( private pics here)
me : pretty much... she likes sex and putting on a show lol
him: i would say...
him: damn....i would love to get some of that....lol
me: well your wife is pretty hot as well
him (6/24/2008 11:13:53 AM): does she get wild
him: when she gets drinking ?
me: so would you like to meet ?
me: will this be a total surprise to your wife, if we met ?
him: total surprise
me: so should it just be me meeting you at a bar
me): for mfm play
him : if your wife wouldn't be game?
me: we would have to talk... I don't know how she would feel about surprising your wife ?
him: does your wife drink?
me): not really
me: if she does I drive
him: wife likes to drink whiskey
me): and you
him: beer, wine whiskey,,,,depends on mood
him: yeah
me: so should my wife talk to your wife ,about meeting or does she know about your swinging account
him : yeah she could
Me : the surprising part is different
him: how is that?
me: usually the women want to know first about everything
him: yes
me: have you met couples before

Him : just in a bar once
Me : does your wife chat or contact people through Swing Lifestyle ?
him: she never has
me : my wife probably wouldn't be to cool with that then
him: yeah, especially if we cant get her drunk to
me: so what should we do then
him: what do u think
me: what bar do ya go to ?
him : some in Indy
me : what are your boundaries
him : no intercourse
me: so you just want me to do oral and you watch
him : yes and anything else u want to do
me: does she give oral
him: she may be too drunk
me : so do, you fuck her
him: yes
me: i just want to be sure what you want

ME : then I guess I could just eat her pussy and you have the sex then... While she is passed out, Am I seeing this right ?
him : yes
me: toys allowed
him : yes
me : i suppose I could play with her with a dildo ,would she like that ?
him : she mite be passed out but wet
me : and all this is unknown to her or is she being submissive to you with this
him : she never remembers
me : ill have to say this is different as hell.... how will you introduce us
him : not sure
me: will you have a hotel
him : yes
me : what if she isn't so drunk and wants to give me head or something are you cool with that ? I like getting oral.
him : i doubt she would do it, but who knows
me : This feels like taking advantage of someone passed out... thats really what you want isn't it ?
him (6/24/2008 11:55:04 AM): yes
Me (6/24/2008 11:55:33 AM): you say you met a couple once how did that go ... did you play
Him : my wife passed out and they played with her
Me : how soon ya wanting to do this
him : soon
ME: how did you meet the other guy, did she talk with him at the bar
Him : just met accidentally,,,she talked with him also
Me: like dancing and stuff or just chilling at the bar
Him : just talking at the bar
Me): so when ya get back to the hotel... do you tell her to get undressed.... We have a submissive female we play with so I understand some of this... well no I don't actually
ME: do you order her as a sub and your the Dom
Him : no, once back at the room, depends on how drunk she is and if she passes out
Me : other wise she wont go along with this
Him : maybe not
Me: would she be pissed if she knew what you are planning here
Him : she wasn't the last time a guy played
Me : what did you do while he played
Him : watched and played
Me : and she remembers him playing and liked it
Him : she woke up for a second with him eating her pussy and she said she liked it,,,then she passed back out
Me: so did he jack off on her or what
Him : yes he did
Me: did she give him oral at all
Him : no
Me: but your o.k. with that
Him : if it happens
Him : yes
Me : Don't get me wrong I like doing MFM but I enjoy my wife enjoying everything also, so this just seems different...
Me : do ya really think she doesn't remember... Are ya sure she isn't enjoying everything
Him : not sure,,,,she gets wet
Me (6/24/2008 12:23:44 PM): got company brb
Me : does your wife know about your Swing Lifestyle account
Him : no
Me : why don't you just talk to her and ask her to play ?
Him :: she mite do it if drunk and accidental
Me : have you talked about swinging with her ?
Him : yes
ME : how often does she get drunk and pass out ?
Him : only on the weekend if having fun
Me : does she know the couple played with her as well ?
Him : she knows they touched her but not details
Me : did you have sex with the other woman
Him : yes
Me : does she know that
HIM : no
Him : they both had sex with my wife
Me : And they were in on her not knowing ?
HIM : they knew not to tell
Him : no we just met them in the bar, nothing planned,,,wife invited them to room for more drinks
ME : never saw them again
Him : nope
Him : the other female started playing with wife
Me : was she awake when the other female started ?
Him : yes, but totally out of it...
ME : so does she know they both had sex with her
HIM : no
ME : so the woman just ate her with nothing in return
HIM : she first started fondling my wife then she reached up her dress and started rubbing her pussy then removed her panties and licked her pussy
ME : do you hope this is acceptable to your wife eventually, or is going at it this way feel acceptable ?
Him : yes i think so
ME : so did you know before hand this couple were swingers
HIM : no,,not a clue (I'm not buying that, he contacted me with this scenario)
ME ): did they tell your wife in the bar before hand ?
Him : no
ME : how long have you been on Swing Lifestyle
ME : a few months
Him : it really was exciting watching the female go at my wife
Me (6/24/2008 1:03:38 PM): Isn't there a part of you wishing she was in on it though ?
Him : yes
ME: thats the problem I seem to have.... I understand some of this, your part, but not hers ?
Me (6/24/2008 1:05:28 PM): i could see a woman getting plowed to swing I've seen that before.... but not getting her passed out and knowing nothing every time
Him : yeah
Him : if she passes out in bars i have let guys feel her up before
Him : i once let a young taxi driver lick her pussy when he gave us a ride to our room
Me : how long ya all been married
Him : 14
Me : I lost your Swing Lifestyle account name
Him : how is that
Me : got it now , why do you have your wife listed as bi curious ?
Him : because i think she is
Me : It says your looking for non pushy people, and that she likes to get drunk and taken advantage of, with the right people... She doesn't even know them or remember, and you say nothing..... Its hard to understand that if you don't tell her people touch her ...
him : yes it is
Me : you say in your profile she likes it..... how can that be, she doesn't know whats happening ?
me: don't you feel like its against her will.....
Him : no
Me: Does she trust you to do what ever you want while she is passed out
Him : oh yes
Me : So if we met I could be honest and tell her we would like to play..... Or do I just sit there hoping she passes out
Him : she always passes out after drinking
Me : is she on medication
Him : no, never takes any medicine
ME : Don't you feel like this is date rape in a way..... I mean she is passed out.....
Him : no, not at all
Me : I'm just trying to understand what you have going here
Me : been doing it a long time
Me : It seems abusive, I could only see this if she was telling me it was o.k....
ME : what will you ever say if she finds out that you let people play with her while passed out ? I just cant imagine people going along with this, especially a couple
Him : she knows it happened in the past'
ME : did it piss her off
Him : no
ME : And you don't think if I went along with this I would be taking advantage of your wife ?
Him : no
Him : do u want to
Me : I have always said that I understand many things about peoples sexuality. I have played with submissive women that we talked about everything up front before drinking. I need to know a womans boundaries... how she feels. I don't think I would be getting that from your wife. NOT PASSED OUT. I feel like your asking me to be a part of rapping your wife. I'm sorry on my part that I led you on some but I just cant grasp this. If this isn't abusive, I just don't understand.
ME : still there
Him : yes
Me : Let me get this straight, you want me to play with your wife and her not know what I'm doing, I accidentally meet you at the bar, wait till she is out of it, then do what ever I want this side of intercourse. You have played with two men and others, and she doesn't remember a thing or very little. A swinging couple as well, and everyone is in on her not knowing what is going to happen. Then I leave and she will never know who I am.
Him : yes
ME : I just cant grasp this concept. If I involve my wife you would want her in on the deception of who we are and what our motives would be, to actually trick your wife into letting us play with her after she is passed out ?
ME : I don't know what to think, I don't know what to actually say
brian (6/24/2008 2:28:58 PM): I have never encountered anything like this..
Me: What do most people say that you present this to
HIM : Ready to try ?
Me : I don't think I could go along with this..... Somehow it gives me a sick feeling. Don't do this to your wife man..... please.

[VegasLee]

I know for a fact that I would agree to go along with him so that I could print out what you posted here and give it to his wife.

There are some people that really are a waste of breathing good air and this guy is one of them.

[LFM2]

What an ass.

[Edison Carter]

Ed here-- Sometimes the best thing is to walk away. Never indulge (or engage) the delusional.

[kittyscave]

I may be totally flying off the handle here...... But OMG!!! Okay, settling down..... maybe she really is into this scene. Maybe she just pretends to pass out. Maybe he's not really married and pays a hooker to do this.

But if not.... Maybe he IS drugging her. It sure sounds like something incredibly deceitful if not illegal. How awful for this woman if she is not consenting, particularly if she is too weak to tell him she objects to being treated in such a way. Maybe he is abusive to her in the home and forces her to do this.

I'm sorry, perhaps this is a total overreaction on my part, and I really do not mean to be judgmental - like I said maybe she is in on it - but I am repulsed.

Okay, I at least feel better for venting. I appreciate the OP attempting to point out to this individual the potential error of his ways and how reasonable people may view this activity.

[SnowwwWhite]

I agree with Kitty. I'll bet good money he slips her something in her drink.

It's when he said "she always passes out from drinking" that sent up the red flags. He sounded so confident that she would be out of it and bragged how he had done it many times before. How does someone ALWAYS pass out?

Sounds like he has this thing orchestrated a little too well.

[spvcouple]

Sounds like rape to me. Whether there is a penis involved or not...the definition says penetration not matter how slight. This guy is a jerk.

K and D

[JustAskJulie]

My first thought was this guy was jerking off the entire time you were chatting with him.... my second thought was this isn't far off from some of the things some guys have posted here....

I can't find a specific example where it went quite this far, but I do recall one thread from a guy who after his wife had passed out he invited another guy (his boss) to touch her. Then the many posts with guys thinking it would be a good idea to get their wives drunk (but never saying just how drunk) to get them to swing.

[BiloxiCouple]

After they "pass out", game is over. Pretending or not pretending there are some legal issues here and I don't want any part of this.


I know ya'll will steer clear and do the right thing. This sure is alot on the creepy side if nothing else.

[sweet_tna]

I am now officially creeped out. I seriously doubt this woman is consenting to any of this, and like some of the others here, I'm concerned he may be drugging her. I think you handled the situation pretty well, as you were trying to understand what exactly this guy was expecting and be open minded about it. But your gut instinct kicked in and told you something was rotten in the state of Denmark. I'd walk away--no, RUN, and block this guy.

[Ed & Bunny]

I dont know how you managed to keep chatting so long. I got about halfway through and couldnt take anymore. What a whack job. Someday he is going to have this conversation with a swinging cop and end up busted. Hopefully soon.

[realcplub2]

Maybe I am missing something, but DUDE!

C'mon... Who the hell wants to fuck the UNDEAD..

[shymxcpl]

And that's the rotten apples who give the lifestyle a bad rep...

[sexcupid]

Wow...I probably would have been compelled to keep chatting with this guy out of sheer disbelief!

I mean I know that there are some pornos out there of the scenario the guy is describing and he obviously gets off on it.

I can't imagine what kind of shit will hit the fan if she ever realizes what has been going on. I can't imagine ever being able to trust that person ever again. Jeez...it takes all kinds I guess...Wow.

[two42lovers]

The whole thing smacks of pure fantasy - a depraved, sad fantasy. Doubt very seriously if any of it is real at all. Sounds more like a pathetic (and very creepy) poser looking to get his jollies.