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When my wife and I were fairly new to swinging we attended the Halloween costume party at a local off premises swingers club at a suites hotel. We had been to other monthly parties with this group for five months and met a lot of fun couples for dancing, drinking, flirting and getting acquainted. That evening, I had talked with one couple about joining them in their hotel suite after the dance for a full swap. The wife of another younger couple approached my wife as the dance was winding down and told her that her husband would like to spend some time with her in their hotel suite after the dance. My wife asked "what about my husband?" and the other wife said "I'll take care of him." My wife was more attracted to her husband than the husband I had talked to earlier, my wife agreed to join them for some playtime.

On the way to their suite we stopped by the hospitality suite. In the adjoining bedroom, a couple was having sex on the sofa bed they had pulled out and another woman bare to the waist was sitting on the foot of the bed as if waiting for someone. She motioned for me to come over and when I did she immediately unzipped my pants and took my cock in her mouth and began sucking me. To say it was an unexpected surprise was a big understatement. Just as it was beginning to feel really good, my wife came in and pulled me away to join the couple she had agreed to party with. We followed them to their suite on a different floor.

Upon entering their suite, the other wife took my wife's hand and led her into the adjoining bedroom and her husband followed them into the bedroom. The other wife came back into the living room and closed the French doors behind her. She undressed down to a sexy black teddy and poured herself another vodka and 7 Up and joined me on the couch. We had just met them and she told me they had a young son and they didn't get with other couples very often. She told me she had recently had a boob job which she was very proud of and wanted me to see them. Baring her breasts she invited me to touch and feel. She didn't have any scars from the surgery and explained the surgeon had made the incisions in her arm pits.

She said she wanted a cigarette and we went out on the balcony. She sat in my lap and talked and I caressed her and felt her breasts as she smoked. We went back inside and started kissing. About then I could hear my wife through the bedroom door making love noises as her partner was getting her close. I thought she's having a good time and soon she had her first orgasm. My partner decided she needed another drink and insisted on going to get more ice herself. She went out in her black teddy and was gone a long time. I sat on the couch and listened to my wife in the next room moaning, talking nasty and having orgasm after orgasm. I got an erection just listening to her and knowing what a great lay she was.

Finally the other wife came back into the room and explained she ran into someone in the corridor and they talked a long time. No kidding. Her husband was fucking my wife's brains out while I sat by myself waiting "to be taken care of." By then I was really pissed off and neither of us were "in the mood."
We sat there a few more minutes not talking much and listening to our spouses having sex. Finally, my wife and her husband came out of the bedroom looking very pleased with themselves. I more or less drug my wfle out of there and on the way to the car explained what had happened. She was surprised and felt bad for me saying that her understanding had been that we were going to do full swap with the other couple. "But she said she was going to take care of you" my wife exclaimed. If I had known the "taking care" meant babysitting you while her husband had sex with me, I wouldn't have agreed to go back to their suite with them."

I didn't know what to do when events were unfolding. What should I have done when it looked like we had been misled and tricked? In hindsight it was obvious that the other wife picked out and set up a very attractive but naive newbie wife for her husband to fuck and managed to lead me on and keep me distracted while he fucked her. I vowed that never again would I ever let myself or my wife get sucked in and taken advantage of like happened that time. The only good thing to come out of the experience was that my wife had a great time and and enjoyed being with the husband. That was possible because she didn't know what was going or -- or more particularly not going on -- in the other room.

What would you have done if you found yourself in that situation? What should I have done? What should I do if it looked like a similar situation was developing again?
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What would you have done if you found yourself in that situation? What should I have done? What should I do if it looked like a similar situation was developing again?
I would have very possibly fallen for the same stunt. I think many people would.

However, we have one rule that would have kept that from happening. We don't play in separate rooms except with couples we've played with before.
So, she would have had to "take care of me" right there on the same bed at the same time, or it wouldn't have happened.

Sorry you had such a shitty experience. But, you seem to be going about it the right way by trying to learn from the experience. I bet it doesn't happen to you again!
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You were obviuosly set up. I guess my reaction would have depended on how long she was gone. I think after 15 minutes or so I would been jumping out of my skin and pounding on the door. You got suckered and I don't think there was anything you could have done about it without making a scene. Then YOU would have looked like an ass. I'm sure you would have heard "well I was gonna".
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However, we have one rule that would have kept that from happening. We don't play in separate rooms except with couples we've played with before.
So, she would have had to "take care of me" right there on the same bed at the same time, or it wouldn't have happened.
two4youinswva presents the best way to avoid this situation, and it is why we approach swinging the same way. We are very comforatble in separate rooms, even swinging separately, but first we play together with a couple in the same room. If that goes well we then advance to different types of arrangements at future play dates, if all are comfortable.

I see your experience as something that could happen to anyone, new or experienced, and you handled yourself well.

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This is a tricky ploy and it probably would have hooked me too. It's a particular weakness of mine that I tend to trust people until I get a reason to not (and hopefully I figure it out before there's any significant pain).

My wife and I don't like closed doors between us at a party, so when the french doors were closed I would have mentioned our preference and had them left open. I'm not certain that would have made a big difference in the outcome of your evening.
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I'm pretty laid back in the club. However, with my skeptical side which lears it's ugly head, I probably would have made an ass of myself unfortunately, because it seems instincts are correct most of the time because when she left the room I probably would have went into the bedroom and pulled the sarcastic excuse, of "I'm going to watch, seeing as your wife has issues." Not that I could have gotten into watching, I would just feel slighted by him and his wife so why not. As for anyone wondering how my wife would feel about my actions: Well let's say that neither one of us want the other to feel uncomfortable about any situation, because we are in this for US (not just one of us).

For future: I can't know whether I would have known something was up, but the "only same room" rule is definitly a good place to start.

I can certainly understand, if you felt like you got the shaft, because well you did. I have to say though that you handled this very well. Don't let this drive you from swinging, just take it as a learning experience, keep the communication open with your wife, and possibly take this opportunity to re-evaluate your boundaries of acceptable situations & non-acceptable situations as you talk to your wife.

Thats my 2 cents....
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I know this would have hooked us because it has happened to both of us before. That being said, we also have both had similar situations when playing in the same room with a couple, where one of us is meshing with their partner nicely and th other one isn't. How we handle it depends on the situation, but generally we do the same thing you did and then don't play with them again. For my part, if Mrs. GT is having a great time I am not going to interrupt it. By the same token though, if one of us notices the other one isn't having a good time, we usually call an end to the whole thing right then.
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Don't feel bad about it. This was obviously planned from the beginning and you were set up. Reading the scenario, I can see that, under the right circumstances, we would fall for such a ruse as well.

I am glad to see that you realize that the duplicity was on part of the other couple, and your wife is blameless in this. As a matter of fact, she appears to be as much of a victim as you are, because she was obviously taken advantage of. Other couples would have blamed each other. You have the wisdom to avoid that trap.

As for avoiding such a scheme in the future.... well, with further experience you'll find yourself harder to trick. Also, as two4youinswva already pointed out... keep it strictly "same room" until you know the other couple well. This is also a good idea strictly from a safety/security perspective. Until we get to know them pretty well, I simply won't leave Amelia alone with another guy. It's not because I don't trust her, it's because I don't trust him.
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It looks like most folks quickly came to about the same conclusion based on the accounting of the events in the original post. I've played this scenario in my mind several times, mostly looking for some kind of way we can detect a similar situation unfolding in our laps and prevent the less than happy ending.

The other wife hasn't had an opportunity to tell her side of this story, and I'm wondering.... WHAT IF she came to the conclusion that there was a lack of chemistry between you and her. WHAT IF she didn't have the guts to tell you that she had changed her mind about fucking you. Perhaps the smokes and booze were her way of trying to develop the courage to say something - it just didn't happen. Perhaps the ice thing became her (chicken shit) way of avoiding confrontation.

I'm not saying her possible poor communication skills makes this all right, I'm just exploring alternative perspectives. Imagine how it might have changed your perception of the encounter IF she had said something like, "I think you're sweet and when I first saw you, I wanted you to fuck my brains out. But something inside me is telling me it's all wrong. I'm sorry, but I can't see myself having sex with you."
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Chalk it up to experience. No harm done really and hell, your wife had a great time and for me personally, I would have been just fine with that.

No sense in going through woulda-coulda-shoulda, for one reason or another it didn't work out for the both of you, only one of you.

However, this scenario sounds like a calculated plan, almost routine. I'd be willing to bet this isn't the first time this other couple has play this game.

If what happened bothers you that much, then don't swing in separate rooms. When you separate, you get what you get.

You got your feelings hurt and your wifes sympathy, I'd leave it at that and let it go.

More than likely you will see this couple at future socials. Don't be mad or upset, that isn't going to buy you anything.

Thanks for sharing your story. It was interesting.
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I'm Imagine how it might have changed your perception of the encounter IF she had said something like, "I think you're sweet and when I first saw you, I wanted you to fuck my brains out. But something inside me is telling me it's all wrong. I'm sorry, but I can't see myself having sex with you."


Thats a great point, does everything have to be a "Set up" - mabye she just wasnt up for it when the time came, or mabye he didn't make her feel up to it.

Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't you having oral with a lady just prior to this event, what was her husband doing for your wife? (of course that only counts for those that like to keep score)

Sometimes you just have to let things flow, sometimes everyone hit's it off, sometimes they don't......
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My gut instinct on this one tells me you got suckered, Jim. And I'm real sorry that happened to you. I am glad, however, that you realize it's the other couple's fault and not your wife's. She got taken advantage of, too.

And I think you handled the situation remarkably well, as you may likely come across this couple at other parties/socials. So what to do now? I suggest being more wary, which I'm sure will be your natural reaction anyway. And you may want to consider (at least for a little while) not doing separate room play until you get to know a couple. A lot of us (Mr. Sweet and myself included) have that rule for just such reasons. If we're right next to each other, we can see what's happening (or not happening) with each other, and react accordingly.

By the way, even if it was a matter of the other woman chickening out, as Socolais suggested, it was doesn't change the end result of what happened. Your wife and the other hubby had a grand ole' time, leaving you out in the cold.

Hopefully, ya'll can just learn from this one and move on to happier experiences.

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Been there, before. Didn't go back. We were glad to find out that this fucker didn't find some way to knock her up, while he was screwing both of us.
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Happened to me once, stayed with a lady at a party I was interested in only to find out after everyone else was gone that she was broke ...
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The other wife hasn't had an opportunity to tell her side of this story, and I'm wondering.... WHAT IF she came to the conclusion that there was a lack of chemistry between you and her.
socolais... I thought about this too, but it seems like she went out of her way to get him "turned off". First she started to talk about her child. Then she started giving details about her surgery ("they went in through the armpits.") Not really sexy talk.
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