Vengeance is mine sayeth the woman

[Merric]

Hello all, I recently read a rather interesting story about a man who decided to be honest with his wife.

I mean as far as swinging goes honesty is one of the mainstays right?

You see this fellow had a regular group of friends over to his house every Monday night to watch football. Well it seems he also had a fiancé, and after he married her, this little fantasy began to grow in his head. And his fantasy as it turned out was seeing his wife have sex with the men of his Monday night football get-together all at the same time.

He wrestled with it for about a year thinking it would just go away. Well to make a long story short it didn’t, so it was finally he decided to just be honest with her. I mean what could be the harm right? After all it was just a fantasy.

Well one night after having sex with her he told her about it. While as things progressed he found himself actually putting it to her if she would try such a thing.

She told him she would think about it. While about a week later when it seemed a forgotten thing he again asked her if she wanted to try it.

She inquired once more if he really wanted to see her do such a thing. While when he said yes she asked him about birth control. After all the pill didn’t work overnight while as to condoms it seemed her vagina displayed an allergic reaction to them.

Her husband then brought it to her attention she could use a diaphragm, something they used during her fertile times. So it was in finding it was something he truly wanted to see her do she agreed.

Monday night came along with his friends to watch foot ball, and as so often happens among men during such things the talk soon got around to sex.

Our fellow then put his fantasy to his friends. While it was dumbfounded and disbelieving one of them went into the kitchen where the man’s wife sat smoking a cigarette. And it was when he put it to her she agreed that yes she had told her husband she would do it.

After a brief fling in the living room with her husbands friends while he looked on when it came time for the actual sex they moved it to the bedroom. And it was after she’d had bareback intercourse right in front of her husband with all the men having come in her at least twice she asked her husband to get her a towel from the linen closet so she could wipe herself.

Obliging her he went to the linen closet and there sitting on top of the folded and stacked towels sat her diaphragm.

Shocked and filled with worry his wife was even now pregnant when he brought her the towel and gave it to her she had a “fuck you, that’s right” look on her face.

Anyway as it turns out when his friends left she told him she really hated him for having asked her to do such a thing. She just couldn’t accept that he could even think she could do in the first place.

So for her vengeance she got knocked up by one of the men just to spite him. And when DNA testing showed which of the men the child belonged to. Well he agreed to marry her so they could raise the child together. While as to the husband he suffered the divorce.

Anyhow it makes me wonder. How exactly did you react when your husband, wife, girlfriend, or boyfriend first brought up the subject of swinging to you? Were you surprised, shocked, hurt, angry, did it perhaps lead to a break-up? I’m really rather curious to know. Because once I’m out of the relationship I’m in it’s my intention to let the women I’m dating know were my head is concerning swinging from the git-go. And that is I’m for it. That way there won’t be any hurt feelings, arguments or misunderstandings later on.

[prettylady]

Excellent question.
Dog and I were barely going out when he mentioned that he tried swinging while posted somewhere. He is extemely open and honest, to the point where he has set me back once or twice. I have learnt that this is a great way to start a relationship, there are no surpises that could potentially hurt down the road. Anyway a few days later he asked me how open I would be with regards to sex. I, having only had 3 serious bf and no flings, have limited knowledge with sex. I said, I'll try anything once. The conversation ended there. I then started, on my own, researching swinging. Then a few days later took it to Dog. He was surpised to say the least. We havn't looked back, but we are still talking.
I agree 100% put it out there right off the start, exspecially if you would like to swing with this next woman. less room for pain in the future if the relationship developed.
Good luck, and one hell of a shitty way to let your guy know you arn't happy about a fantasy.
Your friend,
Prettylady

[Chicup]

Dear Penthouse letters, I never thought this could happen to me.......

I can't answer your question since I did the bringing up, but that story is ridiculous.

[Alura]

Mrs. Alura and I had sex on our first date and talked about swinging on our second. That was twenty-six years ago. We had been discussing fidelity in marriage, agreeing that it's unlikely, because sex is so much fun with different people. We even discussed separating sex from love, something we both felt experienced at.

The subject of Swinging was part of our deluge of thought-sharing after we agreed never to get angry because of a question the other asked. Hell, we were free! We could talk about anything!

"It sounds like fun to me," she said.

It took us about three years to get around to finding our first playcouple, but we've never looked back.

Mr. Alura

[MoonLightKiss]

Actually I was the one to bring it up, but in doing so I attempted to do it in a way that was the least aggresive and least likely to shock my husband. I sat down with him and told him of this site. I told him that I had found such wonderful tidbits on marraige in general that really could be incorporated without the swinging. We both came back, looked over some old posts, and I tried to focus on the ones that really pushed the honesty to the forefront.

Later that night we had sat down to talk about what we had both read. We both agreed that so many wonderful points were made here, and when I asked him if we should consider something like this at this point in our marraige he simply asked me to give him time to think about it. He did, and here we are loving it. I was surprised noone really got upset over it. Not that we haven't had any issues at all, BUT, they have been relatively minor, and we have dealt with them as we got to them, rather than let them fester. I think this really has to do with the fact that we focused on the principles many here have adamantly supported like honesty, before we focused on the act of actually swinging.

[WesternSwing]

I am with Chicup, this story is straight from Penthouse Forum. Now that said...

Mrs. WS and I both kinda talked about it together. It started mostly after a night of drinking at our house with some neighbors and there was definite sexual tension between all of us. From there the discussion between Mrs. WS and I was along the lines of "what if?". The opportunity didn't actually present itself until about three years later at a Mardi Gras party when we were approached by a couple that was interested in us... The rest is history, as they say.

Mr. WS

[intuition897]

You know what Chicup? It's just so FU'd that it just might be real. Visit a few of the vanilla message boards I've been on lately that discuss swinging (literally hundreds of posts, and even thousands on Oprah's site) and you'll see just how many of these people are close to living out that kind of stupidity. I don't usually use the word 'vanilla' in a derogatory manner, but the kind of small-minded, fear-filled ignorance and hatred I've seen there calls for nothing less than the harsh label of cardboard-box plain vanilla! So tasteless and with so little thought put into its making, so little passion for anything other than beurocracy. These people seem to react to emotions, but don't take the time to fix the reasons that they're having them in the first place. Six Sigma technology folks. It's called Root Cause Analysis. Fix the problem at the source and you don't have to keep patching your shit up with duct tape and bubble gum.

Anyhoo, to answer your question, Mr intuition brought it up. He found adultfriendfinder.com and asked me to come and have a look. Now it's sex so I was immediately interested, of course. We started off with the usual fantasy of FF but I swore we'd never do a full swap because I was NOT interested in having sex with any other man. And I didn't even THINK about him having sex with another woman. I was insanely jealous early on in our marriage. After a while though, and he told me about his fantasy of an MFM for me. I was very hurt that he thought so little of me that he could see me degraded in this kind of fantasy, to be used like a toy by some other man that neither of us even knew, while he looked on and enjoyed my degradation. This is what I actually believed. It was a long time before we resolved that this was not what he was thinking. We wasted a great deal of time by not communicating properly. Once I understood what it was that he was doing - giving me a gift, rather than asking something for himself - I was stunned. You can't help reacting to such a display of love. It really affected me, very deeply.

[fun4Ds]

i dont know what to say about this story

i guess some people can read and learn

some can talk and listen

some people can learn from their experiances

and some have to piss on an electric fence :rollseyes

[OnHArry]

Personally that story sounds like something you might see on Dr. Phil or one of those type shows.

My wife and I have been married for thirty years this month. When we were first married we played strip poker with other couples and on one occasion we actually had sex with our respective spouses in the same room but did not go to the next level and swap. Then an experience with a psycho lady sort of put us off that for some time.

When we first got the internet my wife used to chat to a few people in particular, and a few of them got quite flirty, no harm there I was in the same room watching tv anyway so nothing hidden. Then he got a cam one of the first ones out I think, he lived in England I should add. One thing led to another and eventually we exchanged pictures that were not what you post in a pg site.

Then I watched a magazine show around that time and it had a documentery on a movie called the Lifestyle, anyone heard of that one, lol. Anyway the next morning we were driving to an auction we often attended about an hours drive away, and I brought it up, the film that is. We discussed it sort of in the abstract, but every Sunday on the way to the auction, our kids hated auctions lol, we would discuss it again and again, what about A, or what if B, or how would you react to C, that sort of thing.

We discussed this for the better part of a year and then the English guy was coming to Canada, alone as it happened, and with his wifes blessing, we thought. Anyway we met him in a hotel near the airport in Toronto, and well you can guess the rest.

We were slow to get going but after a while well we got going and are enjoying ourselves immensely, though of course there are times we wonder if it is worthwhile.

[HappyPeople]

I took the story as something not intended to be taken as true but rather to serve as a segue for a good question.

With us, it was a pretty easy topic to discuss. We can't remember who brought it up or why, but it came up during sex talk - we both liked the idea and went for it.

[Amanda69]

when he first brought it up I thought he was joking or talking about an old playboy story.

As for this story, there is a big jump from suggesting swinging and suggesting your wife Fuck all your Football buddies....at once.

[beaverz]

Sorry it took so long for me to reply I had to set through an episode of Maury.

We are not swingers yet, but we have been discussing it over the last few years. 20 years ago swinging wasn’t even in our vocabulary. We have grown as a couple and have matured (her more than me) over the years. Discussing our fantasies has lead us to be potential swingers. It’s something that nether of us was shocked when we started discussing it for real.

Relating to your story;
I always separate football and sex it can only cause trouble.

Example:
Look at the size of that hole I could have walked through it, sorry dear I was talking about the football game.

Go for it it’s only twelve inches; I know dear it’s not that long just suck on it anyway.

[Concupiscence]

I hate to say it but I have known of (not personally) many women who got pregnant intentionally and/or out of spite. Hate it for the kids of such a lowlife. Anyhow, despite my prudish upbringing and exterior demeanor, I secretly fantasized about such things and knew that my (then friend) was in the Lifestyle and when we became an item and eventually married it was pretty much a given that it would happen. He just needed to unlock the caged perv that slumbered within me <EG>. Seems that everyday something new emerges.