Getting your profile mailed to your house!!

[biblonde]

I have been playing some on the board from lifestyle lounge and a big topic lately is people getting their profile MAILED to their home address along with any pics they have on site and their REAL names to boot! Has anyone else had this problem that either belong to LL or any other site. It isnt just one or two people but lots. each time the topic is brought up there are one after another saying they got one in the last day or so or last week. Their administration is aware but it is happening alot in the last week or so. I for one am canceling our membership there and taken down our pics but I want to know if it is just that site or has someone had it happen to them from another site?? All the letters come from San Bernadino Ca. but they are sent all over the country not just in Calif.

[BradAndJanet]

I wonder if it isn't a disgruntled employee or ex-employee, someone who has access to private information and/or credit card numbers. They may be trying to sabotage the owners. Could be a hacker trying to blackmail them too. I feel for the site operators, but if it was me, I'd be cancelling, hoping that would actually delete my information and watching my credit card statements very carefully.

-B

[hilltop]

Makes you wonder if there isn't a conservative group behind it.
You know: "Hackers for rightous living" or something.

Has anyone contacted the site to see if there is an auto-distribute system? It may have gotten activated by accident or by glitch.

My credit union went through that a couple years ago. It sent out personal info confirmation notices to about half the members. It was the result of a programming breakdown after an upgrade to their membership management system.

B&J are right. Keep a close eye on your credit and personal info!
Act on any changes you see right away.

[biblonde]

So far we havent recieved anything and have took all our info off of that site.We werent happy with it anyway. The administration doesnt have a clue how this happened or who is doing it although they are working hard to figure it out but it isnt worth the risk to us. I do check my account all the time so would notice right away if anything extra was charged. So far these people only had their stuff mailed to them and a couple of them have had it mailed to their neighbors and work. Scarrryyyy stuff. Everyone should be careful with what pics and info they allow others to see on these sites because if it happens to one it can happen to the others as well.

[GerdOEvert]

1. One Sunday morning, the local pharmacist made a comment about our adventures in the "lifestyle" I did not acknowledge the comment, but wondered about the basis and reason for his comment.

2. Some months later, a woman attorney, who was working on a civil case in which we were involved, threated to expose our "social habits".

For what it is worth, swinging is still not an approved activity, and you can get feedback, flack and embarassment from participation.


Otto & Eileen

[TomDenise]

Slightly off topic but why not?

Why is swinging an unapproved social activity?

I get a little PO'd at this one. In the Bible days they had multiple wives and concubines (sex toys). Jesus was most likely crucified nude as was the custom. Several OT prophets stripped to lament whatever, one prophet (Isaiah?) was told by God to marry a harlot. Women (concubines) were given as gifts as were daughters. When they ripped the blood soaked robes off of Jesus do you think he had his fruit of the looms on?

In the present Church (Church is a Greek word based on the word Circus) they have affairs, cheating husbands / wives. The local pastor paid for the abortion for his 8th grade daughter. They look at porno, I get called to clean up the PC of some of the Church Hierarchy who go to hard core porn sites. They know I can keep quiet.

They have affairs and get divorced with the resulting destruction of a family, we just go play as desired and everyone is happy but we are the bad guys?

Remember the word "hypocrite" Jesus used against the religious leaders of his day? It should be translated "role-player" or "play-actor". It would seem he was telling them he (God) didnt approve of putting on a "church face" (whited sepulchre?) and then be full of lust and bad thoughts (whited sepulchre full of dead man's bones) These are not my words but his.

Jesus was asked what the greatest or most important commandment was. He said to "love God with all your heart and your brother as yourself" If you love someone you will not do anything that is hurtful or causes harm. So he really was saying not to hurt or cause harm to God (first) then (secondly) to your fellow man (your wife OR the other couple).

Adultery: Did the Bible days people who had multiple wives or concubines commit adultery? Did they violate the law? Nope. Sex with multiple wives and concubines was EXPECTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*Can* I commit adultery? Answer: YES YES YES, but only if I do it in a way that causes harm or hurt to God (first) and wifey (secondly). This would be called cheating or sneaking WITHOUT her knowledge and (IMO) permission.

I'll stop now but believe me I could go on.

"Let him that is without sin cast the first stone"

Ok, have at me Surrender

I do believe in God and study the Bible but I will NOT be included in that hypocrite group called Christians

Some good reading: http://www.libchrist.com

Will I be banned from here now?

[txduo2000]

Tom,

I agree with you 100%, as I am sure many here will.

Unfortunately, so many of the "christians" of the world are so hypocritical, self-righteous, judgmental and damning that even they turn a blind ear/eye to the goings on of their fellow christians. They are simple "mistakes", human "falls from grace" ... then they still go on to castigate those who do not prescribe to their laws of morality and their bases of judgment.

Society hasn't yet fully approved swinging, and there are many of us who choose to remain in the closet (us included ) because it is much easier than dealing with the criticisms and condemning attitudes of our friends and family members.

I will tell ya ... if Mrs. Intuition decides to get in on this particular subject, SHE has wonderfully insightful and eloquent information to share from her point of view!

[txduo2000]

Originally Posted by GerdOEvert

1. One Sunday morning, the local pharmacist made a comment about our adventures in the "lifestyle" I did not acknowledge the comment, but wondered about the basis and reason for his comment.

2. Some months later, a woman attorney, who was working on a civil case in which we were involved, threated to expose our "social habits".

For what it is worth, swinging is still not an approved activity, and you can get feedback, flack and embarassment from participation.


Otto & Eileen

You know what I might do, given those same situations? I am a saucy kind of girl, but I can see myself carrying around a pocketful of stones. As each "judge" would hand out their words of wisdom concerning my "social habits", I would hand a stone to each and ask them to pelt me in the head if they could think of no sins of their own, so that they felt self-righteous enough to even think of telling me that what I did in my own life was wrong.

[ItTakes3]

I wonder why everyone jumps on Christianity whenever they get their underwear in a knot over social issues? It's not Christianity that outlaws or discourages unorthodox, but legal, sexual behavior; it's the social mores of a country, state or locality. Jews, Muslims and other religions teach rules of conduct that may or may not agree with everyone's ethics or moral standards, but I don't see a comparable amount of vitriolic hatred openly expressed against those faiths.

Tolerance is a 2-way street and most Christians would never think of "outing" someone's legal sexual activities.

No, I'm not religious....I'm agnostic, but I will respect any church that conducts it's business legally. If I lived in an area where the local culture frowned upon my lifestyle, I would move to an area where I was accepted, or I would change my lifestyle. Society has no obligation to accept my conduct, legal or otherwise, and if I expect their approval, it's me that should change, not the values of my neighbors.

[two4youinswva]

Steering this back to the original subject,
I'm inclined to agree with Brad. It sounds like a rogue ex-employee bent on disrupting the site.

We aren't members of that site, although I think we did a trial there once. If we were, we would be yanking our info too.

[Pepper & Drew]

Originally Posted by biblonde

I have been playing some on the board from lifestyle lounge and a big topic lately is people getting their profile MAILED to their home address along with any pics they have on site and their REAL names to boot! Has anyone else had this problem that either belong to LL or any other site. It isnt just one or two people but lots. each time the topic is brought up there are one after another saying they got one in the last day or so or last week. Their administration is aware but it is happening alot in the last week or so. I for one am canceling our membership there and taken down our pics but I want to know if it is just that site or has someone had it happen to them from another site?? All the letters come from San Bernadino Ca. but they are sent all over the country not just in Calif.

We're not on LL, but some friends of ours are. That's absolutely horrifying.

[EmpyreanPleasur]

Well, it would be possible for a good hacker to access the site and get into everyone's records wouldn't it?

[L&R]

Originally Posted by hilltop

Makes you wonder if there isn't a conservative group behind it.
You know: "Hackers for rightous living" or something.

Has anyone contacted the site to see if there is an auto-distribute system? It may have gotten activated by accident or by glitch.

My credit union went through that a couple years ago. It sent out personal info confirmation notices to about half the members. It was the result of a programming breakdown after an upgrade to their membership management system.

B&J are right. Keep a close eye on your credit and personal info!
Act on any changes you see right away.

I think you are exactly right! they are showing you just how un-anonymous you really are on the internet...they can easily trace any e-mail address straight back to you...

[CA91709]

Mr. CA posting...
This problem seems a bit odd. I actually went through the first six sign up steps at the Lifestyle lounge and at least up until that point, all they had as a solid ID was the E-Mail address. I didn't complete the sign up because frankly the Mrs. and I aren't quite ready yet. It would seem if one used a yahoo E-mail address (that one can get for free, no billing) that a hacker would have a hard time getting in and discovering WHO the address really belongs to.

UNLESS someone used the same password on the Lifestyle Lounge as they used on yahoo. That might allow someone to get into your yahoo E-mail account and get the original E-Mail address. This is assuming the Lifestyle Lounge letter issue is an inside job.

Who knows what the motiovation is on all this. I for one, would not doubt for a New York minute that there are groups that scour the ads looking for someone whom it would be advantageous to out. Why would someone want to do this? Simple, politics.

Remember when Dick Morris (with President Clinton's White House staff) was exposed as having had an extramarital affair? Within the 24 hour news cycle it was released to the Washington Press Core that a certain `Republican' staffer (for either a Congressman/Senator - I can't remember which) was a swinger? They (the press) had his profile photo on television! Of course they ended the photo just below his six pac abs. They went so far as to ambush the wife in the driveway of her home as she pulled up with a carload of kids!! Cameras rolling! She didn't say a word, but I remember the look of shock and anger in her dark eyes. The report even went on with a couple of brief interviews of some fellow swingers who said this `Republican Staff' couple was `kind of particular' in choosing other couples. Their swinger pals may not even have realized how the five second clip out of their 18 or so minute interview with the press was finally going to be used.

After that, both the Democrats and Republicans fell silent. Both sides had launched the equivalent of Nuclear tipped political missiles at each other. Both sides had confirmed kills. Both sides KNEW that the other side had more ammo. Slowly the calm returned on the political sex scandal front (at least in regards to staffers).

If someone works anywhere that is A. Paid for by the taxpayers B. Involves children C. A religious organization D. Involves politics, then they are vulnerable. I'm frankly surprised to see as many photos up as there are.

I do wish that things were more simple. The only defense I can think of is the `Vegas Lee Defense'. Hell, I ain't hiding nothing, everybody knows and I ain't running for President of the local PTA! No offense, Vegas Lee .

Pictures on the internet, once you let them go, you'll never get them back.

[couplewanting50]

Originally Posted by GerdOEvert

1. One Sunday morning, the local pharmacist made a comment about our adventures in the "lifestyle" I did not acknowledge the comment, but wondered about the basis and reason for his comment.

2. Some months later, a woman attorney, who was working on a civil case in which we were involved, threated to expose our "social habits".

For what it is worth, swinging is still not an approved activity, and you can get feedback, flack and embarassment from participation.


Otto & Eileen

Were you able to figure out how these people came to know whatever they did that allowed them to make these comments? That is chilling.