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Hi all! While we all know what D/D free means when posted in profiles, do people who partake in "a little weed from time to time" count as D/D free? The reason for asking is that on a few occasions, we have received communication from couples who claim that they're "not into drugs" but they use marijuana. In our opinion, any illegal drug is what is meant as part of the D/D free criteria. However, when we return our thoughts to these people, we are often chided or spoken down upon. While we are not going to change our minds based on any replies here, we would like to get a feel of what others think about this.

 

Thanks!

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D/D free confused me but I think it means Drug and Disease Free. Am I wrong?

 

I put it right in my profile that I do not wish to be around people that use any kind of illegal drugs. I can understand the responses you get because many think marijuana is a drug the same way they view speeding as breaking the law. And I'll agree that they are not on the same level in terms of how harmful they are to the individual. I'd just like those users to understand that some of us cannot be around any drugs for certain reasons. I do notice a trend by marijuana users don't think it's wrong for them to have it with them or to be on it around unsuspecting others. But it's illegal and disrespectful to do so.

 

I've seen this debate on here before and it's always pretty argumentive on both sides.

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As someone who smokes on occasion I couldn't call myself drug free. I'm not happy about getting lumped in with drug abusers but the fact is it is a drug used for recreational purposes. That said, you could also call alcohol a drug, legal yes but a drug none the less. So forgetting the legalities, can you call someone who drinks on occasion drug free? Technically no, but I doubt drinkers would agree.

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Some thought on the topic,

 

I think that you need to look at that phrase on a couple by couple/person by person bases. Some that post D/D free, are free of social diseases and illicit street drugs, but may use prescription drugs in lieu of other things. Illicit street drug, IV drugs, etc., are of unknown origin, have inherent risks, dependency, etc. and risk of disease.

 

I know a few women that will take prescription drugs like Xanax, Kolonpin, and other anti anxiety meds which are legally prescribed to them. They use them as a chill pill in lieu of drinking alcoholic beverages. One equated it to me as comparable to a couple so glasses of wine with out a hang over in the morning. She also explained that she just doesn't like to drink alcoholic beverages and has no detectable side effects from her prescribed meds. Another explained it that if she doesn’t, if she comes hard early, she’s done, when she takes her prescription, for her it is like the female Viagra, it relaxes her just enough and lets her keep going all night long. Apparently doctors prescribe frequently. One was prescribed them for fear of flying, another for panic attacks and both found other hidden benefits.

 

How many men are taking Viagra, whether they admit it or not. Where does that fit into the picture of "D/D Free." Neither of the aforementioned prescription meds is illegal when prescribed to the person.

 

Marijuana is another thing. It is illegal by its own presence. The odor gets into everything. Its effects are similar in some ways to both alcohol and other prescription meds. We must not forget that alcohol is a drug too.

 

I am neither endorsing it nor condoning it, but I understand it. We don't like spending time with drunks, but sometimes just one or two drinks, it just what everyone needs to relax and enjoy. Moderation is the key if any thing is used.

 

I'll bet that up to 50% of the "D/D Free", are disease free and in their mind and or perspective are drug free but are actually not drug free. Some people are better 100% sober/straight, and some are better a little relaxed.

 

Therefore, we evaluate each couple and person on an individual basis and make our decision to play from there. Personally, for us, we prefer a drink or two.

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With all due respect Mr. Truelove this question has nothing to with somebody having it on them in your presence or is it a question about what is right and what is wrong. I understand your point and do agree, but simply put, can a pot smoker be considered drug free? Obviously no.

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lovinher said:
With all due respect Mr. Truelove this question has nothing to with somebody having it on them in your presence or is it a question about what is right and what is wrong. I understand your point and do agree, but simply put, can a pot smoker be considered drug free? Obviously no.

 

I agree with you lovinher that a pot smoker cannot be considered drug free. But I anticipated that people would say the opposite. Because they have in the past. People admitting it is important. I felt that the presence was related to the admission of using it. Otherwise, why would it be anyone's business?

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Ok, a little clarification from our standpoint. We have no problems with any LEGAL substance, such as alcohol, cigarettes, PRESCRIPTION meds, etc. Yes, they are drugs, but so is aspirin and allergy medication...the same, maybe not, but let's not get ridiculous here. For us it's the ILLEGAL stuff. As far as diseases go, that seems pretty self-explanatory (although I thought the other part was too, so who knows!)...but for that, as most others probably are too, we're talking those little std nasties.

 

Thanks for your replies so far!!!

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Understood and a good point. I was hoping this would not turn into a right or wrong debate because then I'd have to shoot my mouth off AGAIN! :lol:

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I think at points this argument can get silly. What if a women takes antidepressants, what if you have a couple of beers. Why even bring these into the argument at all. These are LEGAL or PRESCRIBED.

 

I take a prescription for ADD, so if we want to argue that point, well hell ya I am a drug user, I can't function on an acceptable level without my meds. But that is being ridiculous to even go there.

 

D/D means illegal drugs. That's it, that's all, that's everything.

 

I don't give a flying rats ass whether or not you agree with pot being Illegal or not. I don't want to be around illegal drugs.

 

I don't see anymore harm in smoking a joint then smoking a cig, but a cig is not illegal.

 

So fight your fight. In the end it comes down to what is or isn't legal.

 

ps. I am having a very difficult week, so please keep that in mind when reading my spastic remarks. It is how I feel, but I am not usually such a bitch.

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OUCH!

 

This is exactly what I was hoping wouldn't happen.

 

The last thing I want to do is piss off a Prettlady so I'll shut up now. :kissface:

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Oh lovinher, you couldn't possibly piss me off. :kissface:

 

For some reason the wrong side of the bed was on my side today. :(

 

Is chocolate a drug?? Perhaps I will go and eat my kids Easter treats then come back and play nice. ::P:

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We had this question posed to use recently by a couple we met for dinner. My response was, "whatever you do on your own time is your business, but we cannot be around any illegal drugs." We prefer not to play with those under the influence, and that includes pot and also heavy drinkers. We just simply find it unattractive.

 

Many people won't play with us because we smoke cigarettes, and we respect that. It all boils down to preferences, which everyone is entitled to.

 

The disease part is self-explanatory.

 

Mrs. D

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Yeah, I think this conversation can get pretty silly. I think it would be hard to draw the line around whats considered "ok" substance use and whats not, in the spirit of the OP. At some point you do get into the recreational use of mj question. I like the speeding analogy. As a professional driver, a ticket is a ticket, and if I get into an accident while speeding, all the authorities (police, insurance, and employer) will considered it to have been "preventable". That says it all for me.

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Why are all you worried about the drug usage, what about the disease? Just because someone says that they are disease free, should you just take their word for it? I don't care what someone puts in their profile. I go with my gut feeling and that is to keep a condom on and stay away from the heavy drug users. A little pot never hurt anybody. I (the female half) also smoke pot from time to time. Something like a special occasion or better put like 4 or 5 times a year. My b-day, new years, and maybe after an exam. I don't consider myself a bad person on an abuser. If asked not to smoke in front of a potential couple, we would respect their wishes.

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The only reason we seem to be focusing on the drug issue is because that is what the OP was asking about. I would be more concerned about diseases then the occasional pot smoking. But this is the discussion at hand.

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Maybe the name of the thread is a little misleading, but the original intent was to ask what the "drug" part of D/D free meant.

 

Of course everyone should be concerned about diseases, as are we, but as far as they go, you either have a disease or you do not. Liars, yes they are out there, but what are you going to do? Hopefully, when you meet someone, you can evaluate their sincerity level, but that's another thread entirely.

 

The other half, concerning the drugs, is where we have people scoffing at us, and that's why we started the thread. It just seems that some folks have differing opinions on what a drug is, which I've tried to clear up earlier in the thread. We're talking illegal :nono: substances here, that's all. I know, we're back to personal preferences here, but we were just looking for others' opinions on it.

 

After seeing all of these replies, here's OUR take on it: to each their own, but if someone doesn't want to play with a someone else because they are a recreational drug user of any kind (and no, NOT viagra, that's supposed to be a prescription med) then it should just be respected and no big deal. Why must some feel the need to justify their actions, or put others down who don't want to be around that atmosphere? We don't dictate whether or not anyone should do anything specific...We are not judgmental in any way, we just choose not to be a part of that scene, or be anywhere around it for that matter.

 

Thanks again for ALL of your replies! It really is good to see such differing points of view! :D

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Tia Vampire said:
Why are all you worried about the drug usage, what about the disease? Just because someone says that they are disease free, should you just take their word for it? I don't care what someone puts in their profile. I go with my gut feeling and that is to keep a condom on and stay away from the heavy drug users. A little pot never hurt anybody. I (the female half) also smoke pot from time to time. Something like a special occasion or better put like 4 or 5 times a year. My b-day, new years, and maybe after an exam. I don't consider myself a bad person on an abuser. If asked not to smoke in front of a potential couple, we would respect their wishes.

 

Some have careers that could be damaged by being around any drug use. You could say the same about swinging, but then again. It's easier to fight a single fire than two, and a lot easier to defend something that isn't illegal rather than one that is.

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They are trying to legalize marajuana use. It has been found to have alot of medical benifits and has been used for hundreds of years. It has also been legalized in three states. If you are caught with it, legal or not, you will still face the judge. It will only be thrown out of court if you bring in your persciption. More information: A drug is something that is mixed together becoming a narcotic or a hallucinogen. Marajuana becomes illegal if mixed. Marajuana is just as natural as a tomatoe plant growing in your garden. Just if you add fire to it, it has some side effects. :lol: Another reason I think that marajuana is o.k, is during anal play. Once a year my fiance and I will engage in it for his b-day, you best believe i have to get my smoke on before we get started. :D I do agree that if using drugs will interfere with your money making, then by all means stay away from it and others that use it.

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I think the OP was trying to find out, simply, what other people think "drug and disease free" means, not what people think of doing drugs, what kind of drugs, blah blah blah. Just how the phrase is interpreted.

 

When we see "D/D free", we think that means the couple has no sexually-transmitted diseases and does not do any illegal drugs. Whether I think mary jane is okay or not in a larger sense, is irrelevant to what I think the phrase means.

 

I know I am being cranky, but I have seen the same debate so many times here that it has gotten tiresome. That, and I am doing my taxes.

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A little pot never hurt anybody. I (the female half) also smoke pot from time to time. Something like a special occasion or better put like 4 or 5 times a year. My b-day, new years, and maybe after an exam. I don't consider myself a bad person on an abuser. If asked not to smoke in front of a potencial couple, we would respect thier wishes.

 

Folks, the issue here isn't about whether people are "bad" if they smoke pot, or if it's wrong to use.

 

The question is simply about the very common use of the term "D/D Free" in profiles, and if people who smoke pot are using that term, or not.

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Hi all! While we all know what D/D free means when posted in profiles, do people who partake in "a little weed from time to time" count as D/D free? The reason for asking is that on a few occasions, we have received communication from couples who claim that they're "not into drugs" but they use marijuana.

 

It's so funny that you started this thread, because I had it in mind to ask the same question here! We share the same opinion you have about illegal drugs, and we don't want to be anywhere around it.

 

We recently ran into a situation where a self-proclaimed "D/D Free" couple was passing around pipes and joints at a gathering we were invited to. It pissed us off tremendously that they put us in this position. We don't use "D/D Free" in our profiles, we spell it out more than that (a complete sentence so that people know we mean it)...this couple knew how we feel about it - or at least, they should have.

 

When pot-smoking couples call themselves "D/D Free", I think they're being deliberately dishonest. They know that pot is a drug and that it's illegal. :rollseyes I think they're just using "D/D Free" in their profiles as a meaningless cliche, unfortunately.

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When pot-smoking couples call themselves "D/D Free", I think they're being deliberately dishonest. They know that pot is a drug and that it's illegal. :rollseyes I think they're just using "D/D Free" in their profiles as a meaningless cliche, unfortunately.

:lol: Yeah, kind of like that third "D" used as a meaningless cliche... "drama free". :lol:

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I agree with Tia, why focus just on the drugs? I am much more worried about someone with an undiagnosed STD than with someone that smokes a little pot :-)

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I agree with Tia, why focus just on the drugs? I am much more worried about someone with an undiagnosed STD than with someone that smokes a little pot :-)

 

The reason we are focusing of the drug free part is because most people when asked what disease free is will say "free of STD's" AND its common knowledge that noone wants to catch one and will use methods appropriate to them for prevention of those diseases. It simply was not what the OP was asking.

 

The OP is asking, basically, What do you consider to be drug free? More specifically, if occasional pot use is considered drug free. Disease was not in the original question.

 

I agree with others here that stated drug free means free of illegal drugs. That, for me, would mean legal drugs not used properly according to prescription as well. If you get a prescription for pain pills or anything else, and you aren't using them properly, its still illegal, even though you obtained them legally. At least that is what drug free means to me.

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This is a simple question.

 

If you smoke pot, you are NOT D/D free.

 

So another question would be...Are you honest enough to admit it in a profile.

I don't state it either way but if somebody asks I'll tell them that yes, I smoke it. If they have a problem with it then so be it.

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We're not cool with any drugs harder than pot (it's far less dangerous than very legal alcohol) and the second "D" means "no diseases. None".

 

Anyone who states they are drug free and smokes cigarettes or drinks is simply approaching it all "cafeteria style" and it's intellectually dishonest to me.

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The disease part is self-explanatory.

 

You would think so, but we've had people write us and say they have the STD that we have, yet their profile says "DD free". Apparently there are a lot of people out there who think cold sores are not caused by a disease. Or they are just liars. Either way, we don't respond to those folks. ::P:

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Cold sores are not considered a STD. I know this cause I just saw it on the health channel! :D Yes, we all know it CAN be transferred through oral sex but apparently in the medical field it is not considered a STD. So are they still lying? I have an autoimmune disease (not AIDS, ok!) I have to take all kinds of crap for it, including pain meds. Am I lying? I guess to be more precise you should say ID/STD free. (ID-illegal drugs)

Maybe Dr. Chicup can enlighten us on cold sores and wether or not it is a STD. :)

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AlaskanGrown said:

Anyone who states they are drug free and smokes cigarettes or drinks is simply approaching it all "cafeteria style" and it's intellectually dishonest to me.

 

Because of social ramifications most people let it known that they smoke. Most non smokers I know prefer not to play with smokers. so if they are DD free, but state that they are indeed smokers and enjoy a social drink.

 

Well, I can't even make sense of this. Are you in fact, not just splitting hairs with this statement. :confused:

 

So how about we play the word game.

 

the D in DD free means that we do not ABUSE drugs or use hard illegal drugs.

 

Why are people making this so difficult.

 

Most people have a drink while out for dinner or a beer after cutting the lawn. I would not call them drug users. It is ridiculous to say they are.

 

Instead of "intellectually dishonest" I would call them normal every day people.

 

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To us D/D means no illegal drugs and no STDs. One reason the "no illegal drugs" are important to gatherings, whether it be a house party or a club, is the police. If there are drugs present and the police learn of it they can get a search warrant and then everyone's name and address are going to end up in a police report. In some parts of the country the police or the prosecutor would love to give the news an exclusive on a swing party. Makes great headlines. Indeed, there have been clubs that were closed because of police finding small quantities of MJ.

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Why are people making this so difficult.

 

I agree! It all boils down to telling the truth.

If have a STD you obviously cannot say you are DD free.

If you smoke pot or do any other illegal drug you cannot say you are DD free.

Simple as that. This isn't a debate about how it should be.

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One reason the "no illegal drugs" are important to gatherings, whether it be a house party or a club, is the police. If there are drugs present and the police learn of it they can get a search warrant and then everyone's name and address are going to end up in a police report.

 

Dito This is our #1 reason for not wanting to be anywhere around users. This is why we immediately left the house party where the "D/D free" couple started passing around the MJ.

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I agree! It all boils down to telling the truth.

If have a STD you obviously cannot say you are DD free.

If you smoke pot or do any other illegal drug you cannot say you are DD free.

Simple as that. This isn't a debate about how it should be.

 

We never asked anyone else or read a discussion on this until now, so it is interesting to read what people think D/D free means. For us, we had to figure out all of the lingo from the websites on our own at first, and we noticed that many of them listed drug & disease free together - never separately. Since drug free was always linked with disease free, we always thought it meant that they don’t have STDs, nor do they do any drugs that could pass STD’s, like sharing needles. So we never included pot in that group. Now, if a profile said “No Drugs” we assumed it meant no illegal drugs and my prescribed allergy medicine was ok. :)

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For us, we had to figure out all of the lingo from the websites on our own at first, and we noticed that many of them listed drug & disease free together - never separately. Since drug free was always linked with disease free, we always thought it meant that they don’t have STDs, nor do they do any drugs that could pass STD’s, like sharing needles.

 

This is a really good point. :iagree: I can see why you could think it related only to illegal drugs & user methods that can pass STD's. I've never liked the "D/D free" abbreviation because it lumps two separate, important topics into one overused cliche that a lot of people ignore.

 

It's so much more clear, and it only takes a moment to write out "STD free", "no illegal drugs", "condoms required", and anything else a couple wants to say about these things.

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