female friendly porn

corkwan · 06-18-2005, 09:21 AM

it must be said, most porn is male dominated... where the main point is the guy unloading on a womans face, the womans pleasure secondary. i've been on a long and hard (har har) search for porn which has a bit more depth to it. it is said that men are more visual and women are more imaginative (that is, guys like pictures, women like words), but i wonder how much of this is truly due to the quality (or focus) of the films. there seems such a big selection, but most of it is like a bollywood movie (there are 5 original films, remade to death, or so i'm told) with the same flaws as other films.

here i'd like to post some of the films we've really enjoyed together. i'm hoping that either this will help someone else find something sexy, or you've seen these and would like to recommend some of your own favourites.

the crucial points are:

1) the woman is enjoying herself - seriously, how can people get off with actors who look like they're bored.

2) the actors are good looking, not plastic. sexy people, but not surgically altered.

3) the sex is hot, and both people look like they're into it... ideally, the woman comes at least once during the sex.

4) a good fantasy/plot, sure we don't want lots of bad-acting character building, but a bit more than a film crew, actors and a matress.

5) film making. bad editing, bad lighting, and bad music make a bad film. lots of the porno industry seems to think that a camera and fucking make a film. perhaps they do, but not a good film.

i know that goodvibrations have a femme friendly porno section, and indeed, their choices are good. likewise, so does blowfish. here are the links, including an article by violet blue, editor for goodvibes and allround right on sex editor/writer:

http://www.tinynibbles.com/pornforcouples.html

http://www.goodvibes.com/cgi-bin/sgd...es/videos.html

http://www.blowfish.com/catalog/videos/by_women.html

....

so, in my search, i've found that the french tend to have much better quality films than north america. so, all listings are french. perhaps it helps that you can't understand most of the dialogue, but the sex is hot, and it seems to fulfill most of the above criteria.

le plaisir à 20 ans (blue one) - a couple imagine numerous fantasies. the film has enough plot to tie it together, but the sex scenes are imaginative and very hot. i think my favourite is the sex by the fridge scene, first the couple get covered in food, then you get really intense sex. the guy stops midsex, and rubs the woman until she squirts, before continuing. the rest of the scenes are also done well, great camera work, imaginative sets.

les cles du plaisir (michel ricaud) - a woman has a chastity belt, so she calls a locksmith who has les cles du plaisir (the keys of pleasure). this film is a classic, but very well shot, hot sex, and nice looking actors.

la femme objet (alpha) - another classic. a man treats women like objects, and then designs a robot woman to have sex with. great sex, but ultimately it is about the mans pleasure. that is, until the robot gets revenge. very well shot, and nice to look at bar the hideous furniture of the early 80s.

salvatore giuliano le dernier sicilien (joe d'amato) - two outlaws on the run, find comfort with a selection of beautiful women. the sex is really hot, well shot, and the actors are beautiful. there are several MMF scenes which are very well done.

les jambes en l'air (new sensations) - 'legs in the air' is a film about sex on an airplane. it has great models, and hot sex. not much plot to it although it sticks to the theme, but it is very well shot and the actors are good looking and look like they are having fun.

L'Indécente aux enfers (french) - a woman is oversexed, so she goes to see a psychiatrist. there she tells the psychiatist about her fantasies (cuts to very nicely done scenes) which range through out history. there is picnic sex, napoleon-era soldiers (MMF), 1940s wartime in a taxi (voyeur), 1950s gangsters. as well, the oversexed woman has some great scenes inbetween her visits to the psychiatrist, including meeting a stranger in a park, doing the mechanic, and the scene which sets the film up, her wedding night (where she goes from 'oh no', to 'oui oui!' and begins her sex obsession).

....

DISCLAIMER: i know porn is a matter of personal taste. maybe this won't rock your boat. however, i feel like i am not alone in that 99% of the films i have seen are not that great, but every now and then, one really shines. i'd be greatful if you can post which films did it for you.

in particular, films that women found exciting.

corkwan · 06-18-2005, 11:14 AM

nothing better than a whole thread to yourself...

i found another link i thought worthy of this thread:

the smart girls porn club: http://girlpornclub.tribe.net/

**LikeMinds321** · 06-18-2005, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corkwan

nothing better than a whole thread to yourself...

corkwan ~

Please don't feel bad. It's the weekend and most people are out playing - except maybe me and you.

I loved reading your post and have seen very few porn films because I don't find them appealing. But what you have shared does stir my interest.

Now finding them in my town will probably be the difficult part.

Thanks for the reviews!

LM

corkwan · 06-18-2005, 02:10 PM

i'm glad you liked my review... i really think the first and the last film are the best ones. most of these can be ordered online if you search using google. if it is a european site, make sure you can play PAL dvds if they are in that format.

now, i need to go outside for a play!

ALilOEverything · 06-18-2005, 02:22 PM

I wish I had at least one single title for you but I don't, much to my dismay.

Several years ago there was a woman on a talk show (Jenny Jones) named Candida Royal (something like that) who was a porn star and decided to become a producer for porn for woman. She wanted to take out the money shot and have porn actors who were true live couples do the acting so there would be more than a sexual exchange between the two of them. She wanted to focus on the sensuality and not so much the sex itself.

On the show they had this video clip of a woman in a tunnel wearing sexy bodysuit with a spiderweb design and a man at her feet working his way up her calves, thighs and body. I was drop jaw and then started my quest to find the movie "The Tunnel". I searched every video store and magazine and it was no where to be seen (pre internet)

A few years later I worked for my Anatomy and Physiology professor who also taught Human Sexuality and I told him of my search. He wrote down the name to keep his eye out. He went to some convention about scientific sexual research and guess who had her own booth.... Candida Royal. She said her movie was no longer out there but took his name and address and made him (me) a copy of her personal copy. She mailed it to him who gave it to me. She was flattered I spent so much time looking for it.

I had a romantic evening all set and we popped in this movie... The Tunnel... And it SUCKED! It was the worst porn I had ever seen. There was supposed to be some deep meaning and I have to say... I didn't get it. And I like a little sex in my porn, something she forgot in the two movies I received from her.

So at that moment I gave up and resigned myself to watching movies where there is obviously no connection between the actors and it's obvious it's staged. I like to be convinced the actors have such an attraction for each other they just have to have it. I want to watch the build up of desire and have them succomb to it in an intense passionate way where I'm on the edge of my seat, dripping wet and can't wait to feel the same thing she's feeling at that very moment.

When you find what you're looking for let me know, it sounds like something I would definitely be interested in.

corkwan · 06-23-2005, 06:12 AM

heh, ya. films that try to be too high-brow often miss the mark. it is one of those things, if you try and be 'classy' you often end up tacky. you don't try, you just are.

my dad is a film maker, he jokes about doing pornos in his old age, but he's just done documentaries. what i do understand is that making a film, like writing a book, is not a trivial task. it takes a great degree of talent and skill to realize your artistic vision.

some films suck because that talent and skill is not there. other films suck because the artistic vision clashes with your own personal taste...

anyway, i'll report back here as/when i find anything else which i think doesnt suck... no guarantees it won't suck for you tho.

EvilMJ · 06-24-2005, 08:23 AM

Interesting topic..I never really thought about it before but it is food for thought.

Thanks for the info....

Thank goodness I speak French

graygo98 · 06-24-2005, 09:03 AM

Andrew Blake's more femme friendly, higher production values, finished look. But the actors are all airbrushed perfection and the plots are usually ridiculous. And those soft-focus shots.... spare us!

Cameron Grant is supposed to be a bit more gritty, but certainly not in the money shot genre. We have only seen the Dinner Party, which is a swing-themed evening where all the quests at a dinner party share their fantasies, which are acted out in little vignettes one by one before the whole group gets busy. If it was a little more explicit -- ok, a little raunchier -- it would be more interesting. Still, something suitable for background mood setting.

Pretty short list, isn't it? If each little "experiment" didn't cost about $60 for a DVD it might be longer.

Oh, there is one amateur bit I picked up off Kazzaa, two middle-aged couple in a soft swap, that was one of the most compelling little bits of eroticism that I have seen... middle-aged sags and all.

clit pro poet · 06-24-2005, 02:14 PM

Sorry not to have caught up to this thread before. Good topic - and responsive to the times. Porn's a sensitive one here too - mentioned obliquely in our intro to Swingersboard a few months back. Thanks all, for the input. We're searching whenever we get a moment.

Maybe y'all have bracketed in on an answer already - that film isn't quite up to the job of portraying unrestrained play. Maybe the medium just can't do it - or does it rarely. Actors maybe look bored or unhappy because they're setup to get a film out, on time, on budget, without undue inspiration or risk. Sound familiar? It's how we have to think sometimes to make a living, not how we like to entertain or be entertained.

Film has conveyed countless love/romanitc/lusty scenes - to make your mouth water and moisten other places as well. But when it comes to couples, you get dark movies of draining entanglements, selfishness, and betrayals. Just having company and play doesn't happen on the screen without baggage.

So it's usually boredom, power, or depressing endings? Bring on some stuff that's just plain sexy!

RogerDaily · 09-14-2005, 09:28 PM

I wish that more porn was produced with some care for composition of the movie itself. You are right about the actors needing to be motivated and good looking. My lady has told me a thousand times that she can't stand Ron Jeremy no matter how "big" he is.

Money shots are just that in Porn, but they can be cool too, you can't have some lame dribble. They need to save up for a while or get some Ginseng tea or something, like Peter North. That is cool to see a guy spray, because it shows that he is into the girl too. I have to go right now, but I will "come" back to this later.

SluttyWife · 09-15-2005, 12:34 AM

Jill Kelly Productions anyone?
http://www.jillkellyproductions.com/

One of a growing group of porn stars getting BEHIND the camera.
She's made dozens and dozens and has really made a name for herself.
Tabitha Stevens is another good one. :-)

Slutty Wife ;-*

amid · 09-17-2005, 05:50 AM

As a male I would agree that most porn sucks and that I have found some of the female directed films to be the best. There is one in particular that I can't seem to find, it was fantastic. It was called "my first time" or something similar to that and it starred an Actress named "Angel" if I remember correctly. This is the story of a girl and her first lesbian or bisexual experience. In the end she has some great sex with a mattress salesman when she shops for a mattress since she moved out and is on her own again. If anyone has a suggestion where to look for it please let me know.

sepacouple · 09-17-2005, 10:03 PM

The movie you are talking about is called "Things Change- My First Time". It is by Paul Thomas and was released by CalVista in 1993. Although none of the actresses are named "Angel" I am pretty sure that this is the movie since you described the plot line pretty good and yes I would have to agree that it is one of the few good ones out there. If you do a search on google by the title there are several places you can get it from.

GerdOEvert · 09-18-2005, 12:35 AM

I have seen some Porn produced in France, and it is SO much better and less gross than what we get here. Professionally done. But I think it cannot be imported.

Try "So Good" The best I have ever seen, and gentle sensual sexual fun.

Wellwhatever · 09-18-2005, 09:18 AM

I'm a man, and I don't like the so-called "money shot" stuff either. Seen one, seen 'em all. Also, I don't understand why having good production values or the semblance of a plot is somehow a gender-specific thing; I wonder if people speaking of it as such prevents producers from going that route for fear they're losing much of their audience.

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06-18-2005, 09:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
corkwan Here to Stay Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 98 Location: somewhere	female friendly porn it must be said, most porn is male dominated... where the main point is the guy unloading on a womans face, the womans pleasure secondary. i've been on a long and hard (har har) search for porn which has a bit more depth to it. it is said that men are more visual and women are more imaginative (that is, guys like pictures, women like words), but i wonder how much of this is truly due to the quality (or focus) of the films. there seems such a big selection, but most of it is like a bollywood movie (there are 5 original films, remade to death, or so i'm told) with the same flaws as other films. here i'd like to post some of the films we've really enjoyed together. i'm hoping that either this will help someone else find something sexy, or you've seen these and would like to recommend some of your own favourites. the crucial points are: 1) the woman is enjoying herself - seriously, how can people get off with actors who look like they're bored. 2) the actors are good looking, not plastic. sexy people, but not surgically altered. 3) the sex is hot, and both people look like they're into it... ideally, the woman comes at least once during the sex. 4) a good fantasy/plot, sure we don't want lots of bad-acting character building, but a bit more than a film crew, actors and a matress. 5) film making. bad editing, bad lighting, and bad music make a bad film. lots of the porno industry seems to think that a camera and fucking make a film. perhaps they do, but not a good film. i know that goodvibrations have a femme friendly porno section, and indeed, their choices are good. likewise, so does blowfish. here are the links, including an article by violet blue, editor for goodvibes and allround right on sex editor/writer: http://www.tinynibbles.com/pornforcouples.html http://www.goodvibes.com/cgi-bin/sgd...es/videos.html http://www.blowfish.com/catalog/videos/by_women.html .... so, in my search, i've found that the french tend to have much better quality films than north america. so, all listings are french. perhaps it helps that you can't understand most of the dialogue, but the sex is hot, and it seems to fulfill most of the above criteria. le plaisir à 20 ans (blue one) - a couple imagine numerous fantasies. the film has enough plot to tie it together, but the sex scenes are imaginative and very hot. i think my favourite is the sex by the fridge scene, first the couple get covered in food, then you get really intense sex. the guy stops midsex, and rubs the woman until she squirts, before continuing. the rest of the scenes are also done well, great camera work, imaginative sets. les cles du plaisir (michel ricaud) - a woman has a chastity belt, so she calls a locksmith who has les cles du plaisir (the keys of pleasure). this film is a classic, but very well shot, hot sex, and nice looking actors. la femme objet (alpha) - another classic. a man treats women like objects, and then designs a robot woman to have sex with. great sex, but ultimately it is about the mans pleasure. that is, until the robot gets revenge. very well shot, and nice to look at bar the hideous furniture of the early 80s. salvatore giuliano le dernier sicilien (joe d'amato) - two outlaws on the run, find comfort with a selection of beautiful women. the sex is really hot, well shot, and the actors are beautiful. there are several MMF scenes which are very well done. les jambes en l'air (new sensations) - 'legs in the air' is a film about sex on an airplane. it has great models, and hot sex. not much plot to it although it sticks to the theme, but it is very well shot and the actors are good looking and look like they are having fun. L'Indécente aux enfers (french) - a woman is oversexed, so she goes to see a psychiatrist. there she tells the psychiatist about her fantasies (cuts to very nicely done scenes) which range through out history. there is picnic sex, napoleon-era soldiers (MMF), 1940s wartime in a taxi (voyeur), 1950s gangsters. as well, the oversexed woman has some great scenes inbetween her visits to the psychiatrist, including meeting a stranger in a park, doing the mechanic, and the scene which sets the film up, her wedding night (where she goes from 'oh no', to 'oui oui!' and begins her sex obsession). .... DISCLAIMER: i know porn is a matter of personal taste. maybe this won't rock your boat. however, i feel like i am not alone in that 99% of the films i have seen are not that great, but every now and then, one really shines. i'd be greatful if you can post which films did it for you. in particular, films that women found exciting. Last edited by corkwan : 06-18-2005 at 11:38 AM.

06-18-2005, 11:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
corkwan Here to Stay Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 98 Location: somewhere	Re: female friendly porn nothing better than a whole thread to yourself... i found another link i thought worthy of this thread: the smart girls porn club: http://girlpornclub.tribe.net/

06-18-2005, 02:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
corkwan Here to Stay Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 98 Location: somewhere	Re: female friendly porn i'm glad you liked my review... i really think the first and the last film are the best ones. most of these can be ordered online if you search using google. if it is a european site, make sure you can play PAL dvds if they are in that format. now, i need to go outside for a play!

06-18-2005, 02:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
ALilOEverything A Little Of Everything Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,472 Location: Michigan Status: Couple	Re: female friendly porn I wish I had at least one single title for you but I don't, much to my dismay. Several years ago there was a woman on a talk show (Jenny Jones) named Candida Royal (something like that) who was a porn star and decided to become a producer for porn for woman. She wanted to take out the money shot and have porn actors who were true live couples do the acting so there would be more than a sexual exchange between the two of them. She wanted to focus on the sensuality and not so much the sex itself. On the show they had this video clip of a woman in a tunnel wearing sexy bodysuit with a spiderweb design and a man at her feet working his way up her calves, thighs and body. I was drop jaw and then started my quest to find the movie "The Tunnel". I searched every video store and magazine and it was no where to be seen (pre internet) A few years later I worked for my Anatomy and Physiology professor who also taught Human Sexuality and I told him of my search. He wrote down the name to keep his eye out. He went to some convention about scientific sexual research and guess who had her own booth.... Candida Royal. She said her movie was no longer out there but took his name and address and made him (me) a copy of her personal copy. She mailed it to him who gave it to me. She was flattered I spent so much time looking for it. I had a romantic evening all set and we popped in this movie... The Tunnel... And it SUCKED! It was the worst porn I had ever seen. There was supposed to be some deep meaning and I have to say... I didn't get it. And I like a little sex in my porn, something she forgot in the two movies I received from her. So at that moment I gave up and resigned myself to watching movies where there is obviously no connection between the actors and it's obvious it's staged. I like to be convinced the actors have such an attraction for each other they just have to have it. I want to watch the build up of desire and have them succomb to it in an intense passionate way where I'm on the edge of my seat, dripping wet and can't wait to feel the same thing she's feeling at that very moment. When you find what you're looking for let me know, it sounds like something I would definitely be interested in. __________________ ~Lilo

06-23-2005, 06:12 AM	#6 (permalink)
corkwan Here to Stay Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 98 Location: somewhere	Re: female friendly porn heh, ya. films that try to be too high-brow often miss the mark. it is one of those things, if you try and be 'classy' you often end up tacky. you don't try, you just are. my dad is a film maker, he jokes about doing pornos in his old age, but he's just done documentaries. what i do understand is that making a film, like writing a book, is not a trivial task. it takes a great degree of talent and skill to realize your artistic vision. some films suck because that talent and skill is not there. other films suck because the artistic vision clashes with your own personal taste... anyway, i'll report back here as/when i find anything else which i think doesnt suck... no guarantees it won't suck for you tho.

06-24-2005, 08:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
EvilMJ Pure Evil..In a cute suit Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 2,497 Location: Nova Scotia Status: Couple	Re: female friendly porn Interesting topic..I never really thought about it before but it is food for thought. Thanks for the info.... Thank goodness I speak French __________________ "Well! Evil to some is always good to others." - Jane Austen

06-24-2005, 09:03 AM	#8 (permalink)
graygo98 Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 381 Location: Toronto Status: Couple	Re: female friendly porn Andrew Blake's more femme friendly, higher production values, finished look. But the actors are all airbrushed perfection and the plots are usually ridiculous. And those soft-focus shots.... spare us! Cameron Grant is supposed to be a bit more gritty, but certainly not in the money shot genre. We have only seen the Dinner Party, which is a swing-themed evening where all the quests at a dinner party share their fantasies, which are acted out in little vignettes one by one before the whole group gets busy. If it was a little more explicit -- ok, a little raunchier -- it would be more interesting. Still, something suitable for background mood setting. Pretty short list, isn't it? If each little "experiment" didn't cost about $60 for a DVD it might be longer. Oh, there is one amateur bit I picked up off Kazzaa, two middle-aged couple in a soft swap, that was one of the most compelling little bits of eroticism that I have seen... middle-aged sags and all.

06-24-2005, 02:14 PM	#9 (permalink)
clit pro poet Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 247 Location: deep south Status: couple	Re: female friendly porn Sorry not to have caught up to this thread before. Good topic - and responsive to the times. Porn's a sensitive one here too - mentioned obliquely in our intro to Swingersboard a few months back. Thanks all, for the input. We're searching whenever we get a moment. Maybe y'all have bracketed in on an answer already - that film isn't quite up to the job of portraying unrestrained play. Maybe the medium just can't do it - or does it rarely. Actors maybe look bored or unhappy because they're setup to get a film out, on time, on budget, without undue inspiration or risk. Sound familiar? It's how we have to think sometimes to make a living, not how we like to entertain or be entertained. Film has conveyed countless love/romanitc/lusty scenes - to make your mouth water and moisten other places as well. But when it comes to couples, you get dark movies of draining entanglements, selfishness, and betrayals. Just having company and play doesn't happen on the screen without baggage. So it's usually boredom, power, or depressing endings? Bring on some stuff that's just plain sexy! __________________ "... How long do we want it to be just the two of us?" (Carrie - Sex in the City)

09-14-2005, 09:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
RogerDaily Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2 Location: Northern MN	Re: female friendly porn I wish that more porn was produced with some care for composition of the movie itself. You are right about the actors needing to be motivated and good looking. My lady has told me a thousand times that she can't stand Ron Jeremy no matter how "big" he is. Money shots are just that in Porn, but they can be cool too, you can't have some lame dribble. They need to save up for a while or get some Ginseng tea or something, like Peter North. That is cool to see a guy spray, because it shows that he is into the girl too. I have to go right now, but I will "come" back to this later.

09-15-2005, 12:34 AM	#11 (permalink)
SluttyWife Flying solo Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 559 Location: Austin Status: single	Re: female friendly porn Jill Kelly Productions anyone? http://www.jillkellyproductions.com/ One of a growing group of porn stars getting BEHIND the camera. She's made dozens and dozens and has really made a name for herself. Tabitha Stevens is another good one. :-) Slutty Wife ;-* __________________ "Too much of a good thing is wonderful!." -- Mae West

09-17-2005, 05:50 AM	#12 (permalink)
amid Here to Stay Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 52 Location: SE Pennsylvania Status: couple SLS Name:amid	Re: female friendly porn As a male I would agree that most porn sucks and that I have found some of the female directed films to be the best. There is one in particular that I can't seem to find, it was fantastic. It was called "my first time" or something similar to that and it starred an Actress named "Angel" if I remember correctly. This is the story of a girl and her first lesbian or bisexual experience. In the end she has some great sex with a mattress salesman when she shops for a mattress since she moved out and is on her own again. If anyone has a suggestion where to look for it please let me know.

09-17-2005, 10:03 PM	#13 (permalink)
sepacouple Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 108 Location: southeastern PA Status: couple	Re: female friendly porn The movie you are talking about is called "Things Change- My First Time". It is by Paul Thomas and was released by CalVista in 1993. Although none of the actresses are named "Angel" I am pretty sure that this is the movie since you described the plot line pretty good and yes I would have to agree that it is one of the few good ones out there. If you do a search on google by the title there are several places you can get it from.

09-18-2005, 12:35 AM	#14 (permalink)
GerdOEvert Swingers Board Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 189 Location: Walla Walla, WA	Re: female friendly porn I have seen some Porn produced in France, and it is SO much better and less gross than what we get here. Professionally done. But I think it cannot be imported. Try "So Good" The best I have ever seen, and gentle sensual sexual fun.

09-18-2005, 09:18 AM	#15 (permalink)
Wellwhatever Registered Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6 Location: San Francisco, CA Status: Single Male	Re: female friendly porn I'm a man, and I don't like the so-called "money shot" stuff either. Seen one, seen 'em all. Also, I don't understand why having good production values or the semblance of a plot is somehow a gender-specific thing; I wonder if people speaking of it as such prevents producers from going that route for fear they're losing much of their audience.

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