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Just returned to the board after a few days away, wow.

To have just read this thread the whole way through for the first time, I feel so sorry for Mrs Frenchie. The members of the board have given some great advice. Please Frenchie take a good look at yourself because you sound so self centred and on such a sensitive subject too. Swinging is most definitely not for everybody, those of us who are males and take part in the lifestyle probably do so as a priviledge because of the understanding nature of our relationship with our SO. We've occasionally come across the self centred male in a club - even giving them a wide birth, they can still have the ability to ruin the night for others.

The adage in swinging is "one partner takes the couple into swinging, the other one keeps them swinging". You've tried to take your wife into swinging, but in this case she clearly doesn't want to stay. Therefore you are not destined to be swingers, sorry that's the way it is and you are in the vast majority here. Please accept that, put her first in your relationship. Understand that the only reason she brings up swinging at the moment is because of the pressure you've put on her. Next time she brings it up you need to tell her you've realised it's not a good idea for your relationship and that you should both forget all about it. If one day a long way down the road she starts talking about swinging again, consider yourself very lucky, but make sure you never bring it up again you've sowed the seed (with some serious over seeding) the ball remains in her court now.

Also forget the accounts you are not being fair on your wife. If you can't put your wife first in your relationship you shouldn't be married.