Thank you avantgarden...actually I have tried this, although it hasnt worked with the other men, our new playmates it is seeming to work. The more comfy we get with each other the better things are going. Me and his SO have let him know that we are both okay with this and that has seemed to help him alot. I will keep working at making him comfy and hopefully everything will "work" in the end.
thanks again s
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