[Ditto]

First off, I've never been able to understand this "soft swap" thing. For one thing, it's not swapping at all. You are just having sex with your own partner while another couple watches you/you watch them. Sounds more like voyeurism/exhibitionism to me. We have always been of the opinion that if you want to swing, then by God swing. But I suppose this comes under the heading of "different strokes" and all that, silly as it seems to us.

Exactly..... "Different Strokes"

We choose to start out this way, as we have never been in such a situation before we do not have any idea of what each of us can handle. I guess we are taking what can be appropriately called "Baby Steps"!!!!!

However, with regards to the incident described here, there appears to be a raging double standard here. It's all well and good to go on about "boundaries", guidelines and rules, etc. But first Ann says it was agreed that the play would be "soft swap" only (that is, no swapping at all). Then she admits that, lo and behold, she and the other woman did, in fact, play, and she thinks (huh?) everyone had a good time. But wait a minute. Ann has already admitted that it has NOT been "soft swap, our partners only". She and the other woman have had sex on their previous encounter. That is, FULL SWAP. So right there, by her own actions, the boudaries have been shown to be pliable...at least when Ann wants them to be. (And please don't try to tell me that, just because it wad f2f bi play, that it really was not full swap. I don't give a rat's ass what the gender of the play partner was; if said partner was not your spouse, that's swapping, period.)

The other woman suggested "Playing" for the benifit of our husbands! We each knew before hand that our hubbys had no problem with girl/girl action we went ahead and played!

I don't give a rat's ass what the gender of the play partner was; if said partner was not your spouse, that's swapping, period.)

Please.... In all honesty, I don't consider this situation a full swap? I consider it just what it was "Girl/girl or Bi activitie" I know of lots of couples who's husbands let their wifes play, but the here is no male/female partner swap going on.

(OK, my shields have been raised; let the flames begin...

bear_n_bunny, you are entitled to your own opinion and your own version of what swapping means to you.... Why in the world would you think that I would wish to flame you for this?

To each their own I say!!!!