[bear_n_bunny]

Originally posted by Elusive BiFem
Bear:
I think your suggestions, from the male perspective, are quite good. I have a bit of trouble sometimes with your "macho-male" attitudes (in this and other postings), but truthfully, when I step back and try to look at things from the male perspective (as best I can), I can usually understand where you are coming from or headed to.

Thank you, although I'd like to know what you mean by "macho-male" attitudes.

I don't think your suggestions are necessarily a lie. I believe it was more along the line of the "manipulation" I was talking about earlier. And while most everyone will say they don't like a manipulator or being manipulated, we all do it in one way or the other although I believe it is generally without conscious intent.

Quite right, although I would maintain that most of us know when we are doing it, at least on some level. Call it a white lie, manipulation or what-have-you, we have all done it on occasion, if for no other reason than to smooth over those little bumps in the road of life couples run into from time to time, especially when dealing with your S.O.'s insecurities. It's not pleasant, but sometimes it's necessary.

Rabbyt:
From the female perspective (maybe the "macho-female ), I would merely like to reinforce the idea that along the way of attempting to introduce Ms. Rabbyt to the idea, you reinforce your feelings for her - your emotional and sexual desire for her, and particularly your love for her alone. As you work on that aspect, along with Bear's suggestions, you will be increasing her self-confidence and ego, as well as opening all of those doors of communication that are spoken of so frequently. -EBF

Very, very well put.

Bear