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Originally Posted by wpcplindy  I have been talking with the wife about swinging and a MFM on and off for about 7 years and have had a little headway in getting her to consider a bit of swinging or a MFM. |
Reading/responding this in real-time stream of conscious mode. I have only read the above so far, and I have to say...if after 7 years, she's not budged I would say it isn't going to happen. That's no crime or anything.
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Originally Posted by wpcplindy ( I have my doubts on that statement ) |
Either you trust her or you do not. It's important to trust in swinging, and trust implicitly.
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Originally Posted by wpcplindy I have over the last 4 years teased her about doing a MFM and she plays along with the conversation but always ends it by that she could never do that, that I am all she wants and why would I want to watch some one else fuck her. |
My wife had a difficult time wrapping her head around the idea that I would enjoy watching her have sex with other men. I just kept answering in earnest how much the thought turned me on (and still does!) and was born out when finally I got to see this. Society doesn't raise us to think of such thoughts, and if we do such thoughts are evil, immoral, etc. It's very hard programming to get past. Very.
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Originally Posted by wpcplindy Even after we fuck and I fill her up she is still hot for more cock, I tease her often about wanting to bring in a extra male to assist me. She even jokes about the need to have her serviced more.
She has told me about her past partners after she was divorced and how many she has had, how big there cocks were etc. She has also admitted that while she was single and dating she had a fuck buddy that she would hook up at least once a week while she was dating other guys. |
Past non-married history doesn't a swinger make. There's plenty of things I did when I was single that I would never consider repeating now that I'm married. You've shown that she has a high sex drive. This is not a key ingredient for swingers. In fact, I've seen research that suggests your average swinger has an average sex drive.
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Originally Posted by wpcplindy But of course she didn't when her and I started dating so she has said. |
Again, either trust or do not trust.
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Originally Posted by wpcplindy But have yet to get her to admit or her to even express interest in a threesome or swinging other than the teasing conversation we have. "She says that she only wants my cock" but then leaves the conversation with a glimmer of hope at times by her comment about she couldn't do it with anyone of my friends or anyone in our town. |
For some, the fantasy of swinging is all it will ever be.
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Originally Posted by wpcplindy I am looking to get as may ideas as to how I might overcome this and expand on the conversation during the times it is brought up during our teasing conversations. |
I'm not sure you can. You can't convince her of anything. All you can do is support. With my wife, what was the turning point was not a point, but her. I was patient. We talked until our tongues practically fell out. I didn't push. I just waited for her to grow into the idea. You can't push and expect she'll move. You can't overcome anything with her. She has to overcome it, on her own. My wife swings because *she* wants to. She gets pleasure knowing I am pleased she is fucking someone else, but her primary intent is for herself, not me.
That said, if she's willing to have sex with you while other people are watching, etc. you might suggest that you invite a third just for massage, and nothing more. It's a dip-your-toe-in-the-pool sort of thing.