[mixtupcpl]

Yes, thats exactly what Im driving at. I should express it that way. What I see often discussed in the alt lifestyle context is actually multi-male. And while I think maybe certain individuals could be wired to somehow make that work, and battle all of the societal pressure, I feel that this is very much an exception.

And then with the multi-female, it seems the root cause can always trace back to some variation on "males in power want more".

So that brings me back to wondering if poly relationships are truly "natural" in the sense that alt lifestyle folks discuss.

For me to buy into that, I would need to see exactly what Heinlien theorized playing out on some kind of large scale.

For me to believe that 1:1 coupling is just "societal programming" I would need to see a lot more evidence than instances where men with power abused that power to take all of the women, is what I'm saying.