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Old 07-04-2008, 10:21 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Default Re: Got to get some things off my chest

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Originally Posted by Chicup View Post
Well normally that would be a turn on for me, since I'd try to sway you to the darkside. We have cookies and better parties.

Since you seem to be moving there on your own it would be less of a turn on
Chicup, for you I'd fake it!
Cookies, eh? Hmmm..

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This is a hard conversation for me to partake in, as I've been an atheist for 30 years and I'm not even 40 yet. At an intellectual level I understand peoples need for a God and I even have theories for it on an evolutionary level, but at a gut level I just don't understand how grown adults can think they have an invisible judge in the sky, whos actions seem arbitrary, reads their minds, expects complete obedience, and expects us to not use logic and reason but instead just trust what we are told is his word by other men.

If there is a God out there, I don't think we quite 'get it' and I'm not too worried about meeting it.
Chic, from reading this, it sounds like you've bought into the extremist/fundamentalist theory just as hard as the most hard-core churchie. Maybe we all just need to re-examine our perceptions. We get ideas in our heads of who and what "God" is, and we let the world's perceptions define it for us. For example, you have the impression that God is some unrelenting judge in the sky, which makes it seem really creepy that he reads minds. And apparently we're not supposed to think for ouselves..but did God actually say that? Or is that just something that was filtered through humans? Sounds more like you just have an opinion about what Man's religious habits, and not necessarily about the existence of a Higher Being.

All I know is, evolutionarily created or not, I DO have a need for God in my life. I'd be totally fucked up and a real wet blanket at parties if I were compelled to believe that we weren't as precious as we imagine, or that we weren't loved and capable of divine love.

I wouldn't let my views interfere with a good party in any case. I'd encourage everyone to forget I mentioned any of it if it meant that we could all get silly and have fun. I drink. I laugh. I love to have fun. I just love people. To me, that's what it means to be Christ-like. Period. Let's just leave it at that... where's the lube!?
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