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Old 05-09-2008, 12:00 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Default Re: Frustrated but Understanding

OK... here is what I disagree with... But remember, our swinging style might not be like others. We are after sex. New experiences, new men, new women, new couples. We try to keep things as simple as they can get and NOT to over think things. It's sex. Plain and simple. No strings attached sex. For the fun of it.

You summarized NumskullsX2 post very well, I'll add.

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I would like to summarize what Numbskulls posted, and maybe that will help me see what the disagreement is over.

1. The sad truth of this lifestyle is that most single guys are NEVER going to connect with anyone in it.
- I have to agree with this. Many will try, only a few will succeed. It takes a special man to be successful in swinging. Think about how many single guy ads you see online. How many do you think are successful? We know a guy that was a regular at a couples only club for quite a while. When he and his lady friend went their separate ways, he has obviously struggled to stay in
the swinging community as a single male.
I just don't find this true. There are plenty of couples out there that like single men. At least there are in my area. Singles (including men) are pretty popular. But, we've also found that people have pretty much the same swinging style as we do. There are some couples that aren't going to be very successful in swinging because of their attitude just like some singles won't be very successful. It all depend on what someone is looking for.


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3. Very few couples and even fewer single women are "looking for single males." The ones that are can be, and are, VERY selective.
- I don't know if it's very few, but I do know it's a smaller portion of the general swinging community. Kind of obvious when you read the threads that sometimes evolve into "Single-Male Smackdown" sessions (which I don't really care for).
Still, around here, singles are accepted into any swinging situation. There is a breed of guys around here that seem to have manners and are respectful of both partners. They don't focus primarily on the female. It's a mutual thing all around.

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5. Occasionally a single guy does connect with a couple. But if you are not young, fit, attractive, and/or reasonably intelligent, your chances of that happening are almost non-existent.
- I know it's not warm and fuzzy, but once again, it does take the special man to make the connection (For examples, see posts by Thrax, Curious Again, Eternally Single).
Our single male is not young, fit or really attractive. What he does do for me though is give me one hellava good time. He's respectful, he and Dave have actually gotten to be good friends and he's intellectual. He can talk about a wide range of things intelligently. Again, geographically, that is just us.

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6. The fact is that most husbands who swing as part of a couple (myself included) wouldn't be successful as single males if we had to proceed in this alone.
- Same here. I feel fairly confident that I would be on the outside looking in.
I had to include this one just because I found it so funny. I can't even imagine Dave as a single swinger. I can't say how successful he'd be, although he does bring a lot to a party. Then again, I'm biased.

I do understand what you guys are trying to say, yet I just don't agree with ALL of it, however some of it is very valid. And still, another thing to remember is that this just our experiences and my opinion. I have been wrong before, but empirically, it's been proven in my geographic area that single men are respected and welcome.
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