[Bama0468]

IMHO what you discribed is more swinging than an open marriage. as I stated in my post I feel that opne marriage is when you don't know when where or how and may never know, and as I stated those in open marriages may or may not tell.

Lets face it my opinion of open marriage is going to differ from someone elses and I feel the defining would be impossible ... kinda like definining "Nice couple" in the other post ... or even what one looks for in a playmate ...

Now if we take where folks ( and I know we have some here ) that are in open marriages and swing ask them where they feel the line crosses, find out from folks who ONLY practice open marriage where they feel the line is that they would be concidered swinger, and where the swingers feel at what point they feel it would be crossing into open marriage.

If we do that we may find a commonality to which we all MIGHT agree with a minimum of grey area.

however the open marriage folks I knew (never played with them) were of the mind set that they could do who ever when ever, no need to tell or inform at all.

The way those folks I met and knew played was a hair line from cheating as its cheating if you have no permission, but the open marriage folks had a never ending permission.