WesternSwing, I can't argue with you at all.
One of my biggest issues with our quad is that others
may view it as all about the sex. And that could be because
I/we know it started that way for us. What I want people to see is that it is about the
love first now. Sex is a big freaking deal!

I'll not deny that. One of the "finer things in life" as I say. But I'd never get rid of Tech any more than I'd get rid of Gator if, for some unfathomable reason, we couldn't have "sex". The love part, especially the depth of it, hasn't been something I've found a way to get others to understand. It never really was important for me to find a way to make others understand swinging. That was just fun for us and who needs to approve of my fun? Well, truthfilly, no one needs to approve of who I love either. The fact that I love them tends to make me defensive of someone talking in a bad light about them. Therefore, I want it to be understood that they aren't "bad" people (non of us are) and why the hell can't you understand I can love more than more person?
So, did I just talk myself into changing my answer to they'd both be about the same on the scandalous meter? Either way, it won't be the first or last time I've been called a freak.
Vol
PS. None of this probably makes sense. Not a good night for me and therefore, I shouldn't have posted to anything at all.