[good times]

I didn't read your entire post in depth either, but my quick speed reading of it gave me the general gist of it, at least enough that I can make some quick "snap judgments" about it.

I agree with Spoo in that you went off track in saying that their has been acceptance of swinging amongst the general populace, if their has, I haven't seen it. Nor am I looking for any, like Spoo, I am not looking for acceptance.

I also don't see that "breeding" parties, or any other non-swinging activities involving sex, have anything at all to do with swinging. So, I find it no surprise at all that most folks on a swingers site would find this activity objectionable.

I also want to assure you and anyone else who has the view that because we are swingers we should be more open minded and accepting of other kinks then the general public, that we are not, and have no obligation to be, in my opinion.

Whether breeder parties are real or not is irrelevant when I or anyone else here forms their opinion of finding them objectionable or not.

Lastly, this site is for people to ask questions of others who in turn, give their opinion. Ones opinion is just that, no more, no less. Asking someones opinion, and then taking objection to it when he gives it, seems pretty ridiculous to me.