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Exerpts from SB Re: Swinging and Pregnancy Worries

Originally Posted by TerryforSex

Some people go into Swinging knowing the risks of getting pregnant. There are some parties that are planned I attended where there were really wild rules.

No one could use birth control or condoms. No guys with vasectomys either. This was one Wild party where someone might get pregnant. That was the most extreme I have participated in.

From that one party 4 were pregnant. But that was the risk and before hand knowledge of the risk. Some attended with that intention. Their husbands had low sperm counts so this was better than spending thousands of dollars in a clinic.
Pick your parties and partners wisely.

Originally Posted by Spoomonkey

How incredibly irresponsible and sick...

Sorry - but when the kink involves pregnancy (and thus an innocent life) I tend to bristle.

All though to be fair and honest, I don't think this party ever actually happened. I think this is a tall tale similar to "Bloody Mary", snuff films and Bigfoot - and there does seem to be a bit of a theme to your posting interests.

Spoomonkey

Originally Posted by Chicup

Crazy kilt man does not approve of this post.

In fact it made him curl up into a ball and cry a bit.

Please, think of Crazy kilt man before you post.

Originally Posted by MoonLightKiss

Spoo, as always you hit the nail on the head. If this party happened, (which I doubt) your participation in it is just as irresponsible and sick as everyone elses. The thought that one of those people could have gotten pregnant scares me. Only because, if people are that stupid, how in the hell can they raise a child?

However, as much as this subject burns me up, I must agree with Spoo once again. Spoo calls it a "tall tale". No arguments here. I would say its starting to smell of troll, but it may still be a bit premature for that.

Originally Posted by intuition897

TerryforSex, I noticed this post:


This is about the only one I've seen that doesn't somehow deal with a fertility fantasy/fixation. And the view expressed in the above post doesn't really strike me as particularly balanced...which I've always thought was necessary to get the most from the experience. Otherwise I'm guessing it would be unbearably shallow.

To each his own when it comes to kinks and fantasies...but when the by-product of those fantasies is a human life, I have to disagree with it.

Originally Posted by TerryforSex

WOW....A BUCH OF no fun people...go get a fun life and quit while ..never mind...

Originally Posted by havefuninsun

Are you fucking kidding me??? You think it's FUN to get pregnant by god knows who? You think having unprotected sex with a lot of different men at once is FUN?

We have a LOT of FUN. RESPONSIBLE people do not go to parties with the intention of possibly getting pregnant (playing Russian-rulet with our bodies), putting ourselves at HIGH risk for an STD (playing with multiple partners is "risky" enough in my book), or having your husband impregnate someone else and having THAT drama for the rest of their lives.

Let's imagine THAT conversation, "yes, Susie, you were conceived during a wild swing party. I'm not sure who your daddy is." OR, having some kid show up on your door step during family dinner hour. "Hi Dad! Oh look! My other brothers and sisters! Hi guys! I'm your dad's child conceived from a wild sex party back in the day."

Originally Posted by peabody

I have never heard of something like this. I have heard of one couple doing it on the sly to get pregnant, but an entire party dedicated to getting pregant. Can this really be true?

Now I agree these posts most certainly hold merit. But only for those who posted them or happen to agree with them. Also aside from intuition897’s post which seemed to be written with a degree of thought and rational. For the most part I found the rest based more on emotional outburst than anything else.

In every society certain patterns of sexual behavior are accepted as proper and approved ways of expressing sexual urges. While alternative forms of behavior are rejected. Members who act in accordance with the mores are rewarded by social approval. But individuals who deviate from the mores receive social censure or other specific punishments.

Because of social scorn this is something clearly known by swingers. Yet it seems all that’s been forgotten in these instances of what can only be called emotional outburst. For the same as swingers mores don’t concur with those of established society, then as evidenced by these rather emotionally charged snap judgments and harsh responses to terryforsex’s honesty this plainly shows a displacement has occurred. That the condemning swingers in these posts have taken up the same reins of ostracism against the breeder’s lifestyle that not so long ago, and though to a lesser degree today society took up against what then was called wife swapping and today the swingers lifestyle. And why, because just as swinger mores don’t coincide with societies, despite there’s no true difference, between swinger and breeder activities as I hope to prove. These swingers with what seems to me to be seeing only what they want to see are lashing out against the breeder lifestyle philosophy just as society lashes out against the swinger lifestyle philosophy. Yet I have to ask would this remain so if the reproaching swingers involved took time to consider the long struggle it took them to gain even the modicum of acceptance they today have. Or in fact realized they gained it all because of a long time of enlightenment through the dissolution of ignorance and learning the things they’ve been taught in life concerning relationships aren’t necessarily something that have to be carved in stone .

As others before me I’ve never felt completely comfortable with the terms natural and unnatural when they apply to human sexual behavior. In a sense, one could say any form of sexual behavior that can be exhibited by a human being must be considered natural in that its part of the human repertoire.

Generally, the term unnatural has been applied to those variations of sexual intercourse as in homosexual, swinger, bestiality, anal or oral sex which are, or have been considered unacceptable to a particular social group. In most case these are religious organizations and in following their lead of decided morality political ones. So when one looks at examples of swinging then breeder parties under the logic of religious mandate invariably it’s the swingers who have intercourse without the sole purpose of procreation who are the sinners.

Now this is something society with the blind faith they have in their religious and political leaders takes for granted. However being a theologian of amateur standing yet technically a professional one because I’ve been paid for it. The honest truth is, or at least as I and a great many of my colleagues the world over believe. Is that in the Garden of Eden when Adam observed the animals engaging in the pleasures of sexual intercourse he grew curios; however with their permission (remember animals and man could converse freely) after trying out bestiality to learn what they were enjoying he soon grew disenchanted. Thusly he called on his Companion the Father Creator to make for him an opposite, yet like kind as each of the animals had so he also could enjoy the pleasure of intercourse with one of his manner. Now why intercourse as engineered and designed by God can so readily be deduced was for pleasure and pleasure alone is a simple matter to determine. And this is because where immortality, as in the case of Adam, then Lilith who I, as many other theologians believe was actually the first the woman of Creation. Then of course Eve as well as all the animals of Eden, all who were vegetarians. (See the Panda, who though it possesses all the characteristics of a carnivore for ninety percent of its diet eats bamboo) enjoyed intercourse strictly for pleasure. Because simply or even strictly speaking in the instance of immortality in any species procreation becomes a redundancy. And this is further born out if we accept Adam, Lilith then after their falling out, Eve had regular encounters of sexual pleasure, it further stands to reason that’s all it was for since at no time is there record of them nor any of the animals bearing offspring while in Eden. Not until Eve’s then Adam’s sin of eating the forbidden fruit of the tree of knowledge and mankind’s subsequent loss of immortality and banishment from Eden did God declare through an angel that “Eve would know suffering through the bearing of children.”

In any case at no time in the Bible is there an area where God has show anger or been ashamed when man uses His gift of sexual pleasure. In fact this can be shown by an actual book of the Bible. “Solomon’s Song of Songs.”

By determination of a great many theologians, myself included the literature indicates God's primary purpose for inspiring Solomon to write the Song was to serve as an ever-present safeguard against those who’d attempt to teach sexuality is a dirty or necessary evil meant to be used only for procreation purposes. When in fact according to Solomon’s poem and all biblical references to sex it was not, instead sex was meant to be treated as the gift of pleasure God intended before procreation become a necessity for perpetuation of the species. Meaning before Adam and Eve were banished from Eden.

Some believe Solomon’s "song of songs" attests to the greatness of the book. Rabbi Akiba declared, "Heaven forbid that any man in Israel ever disputed that the Song of Songs is holy. For the whole world is not worth the day on which the Song of Songs was given to Israel, for all the Writings are holy and the Song of Songs is holy of holies.” ~Mishnah Yadayim three colon five.~
What I found from my researches was early leaders and religious founders had done this very thing. And in their search for power and means of control, then based the way men and women should live on the relationship of Adam and Eve. Who being the only two people at the time [/i]had no other choice.[/i] While with the addition of most likely the nesting habits of birds, yes birds as many here have suspected or realized, decided on the idea of monogamy as being the only legal way a man and woman could live together. But that was the doing of men. While again not at anytime in the Bible has God shown shame or anger when men and women enjoy his gift of sexual pleasure. Not at anytime. Not even in the story of The five Cities of the Plain, primarily S’dom, Gamor’rah, Admah and Zeboi’im because the tale has been so corrupted by those who use it to retain power over the masses the reality of it has been lost. Firstly S’dom (Sodom) and Gamor’rah (Gomorrah) aren’t even the actual names of those once great cities that at the time had reached unprecedented levels of civilization and sophistication. One of the things which accounted for the inhabitants enormous egos. But in any event seeing how S’dom is Hebrew for “burnt” and Gamor’rah‘s Hebrew for “a ruined heap” these are names those peoples gave them after the rain of fire. (In case you think it didn’t exist for pictures of what likely was S’dom see:
http://www.bibleplus.org/discoveries/sodomfound.htm)

Now for one major point these weren’t empires dedicated to homosexuality. If they were they would’ve made themselves extinct in a few generations since there can be no procreation between same sex couplings. So what actual historical and theological records show is those peoples were in fact devoutly heterosexual with high regard for family. And with equal piety the men along with their wives and temple prostitutes offered their lustful offerings of sexual pleasure to their warrior goddess Ishtar. So what I, and again a great many other theologians believe, is in his hatred of man and jealousy of those peoples devout worship of the warrior goddess it was Samuel/Jehovah the fallen angel who God named Satan that destroyed those ancient cities of profound sophistication and greatness. Now I say this because as most early civilizations the Hebrews originally also worshiped more than one god and Jehovah was but a chief one among them. While as time went on and further evidence was revealed it came to light for many theologians and occultists alike that Satan is and always has been the bloodthirsty and jealous god Jehovah. Remember even Abraham and Lot both were skeptical their God would or was actually going to do such a thing as destroy an entire city and everyone in it. So Might I recommend "Jehovah's Witnesses" or Satan's Salesmen? by Forrest L. Keener or “The True Identity of the Bible-God Revealed” by Rev. Nathaniel J. Merritt” or An Awakening to the Universe 1927 by O. A. Ostby. Or any of the dozens of other available books on the subject.

However even though there’s so much more to include for further evidence and it seems I may have hijacked my own thread I don’t feel I did because in order to continue I felt it necessary to point out what the bible actually says about men, women and sexual intercourse. So here’s some further necessary information that’s needed to continue. And yes of course those with children likely already know that in order to ensure pregnancy:

One, make love often during your fertile period, those being the five days leading up to ovulation. If you've got the stamina to make love at least every forty-eight hours, you’ll ensure there's a fresh shipment of sperm waiting in the fallopian tube at any given time. Of course, you can’t get too much of a good thing if your partner has a low sperm count, so if you're aware of a pre-existing fertility problem, you'll want to talk this issue over with your fertility specialist. Keep in mind baby making is a numbers game. Even if you do everything "right," you still have only a twenty-five to thirty-percent percent chance of conceiving in any given cycle. Now true that’s under conditions with just a man and wife. However surprisingly they odds don’t so vastly increase with multiple partners as one might think.

Now if after a breeder’s party or any instance where breeding is the actual intention. While I also ask you remember the odds of actual impregnation happening as shown above. Then remember also the odds that each woman present is also ovulating and how utterly unlikely that is. While if a woman does find she’s been successfully bred, objectively there’s no real valid argument against abortion. Emotionally or religiously as it’s accepted by the masses, depending on the individual certainly there could be some. However when arguments are based on emotion seldom is there fact involved. While here in these instances shown above if your argument’s rooted in religion or religious mores as known and performed by the general population and you’re that fervently pious about it. Well then I have to ask what the heck are you doing involving yourself in the swinging lifestyle anyway? For certainly it goes so severely against the ideal of monogamy those in religious power have set down as being the proper and only acceptable way for married men and women to live that certainly your argument against breeders makes you out to be hypocritical. Sorry but you can’t have your cake on one hand and eat it too. So if you’re that seriously devout and basing your argument on what’s been taught you through religious upbringing. Yet by those same standards yourself are indulging in verifiable, impious sin then as set down depending on translation:

1. “Stop judging, that you may not be judged.

2. For as you judge, so will you be judged, and the measure with which you measure will be measured out to you.

3. Why do you notice the splinter in your brother's eye, but do not perceive the wooden beam in your own eye?

4. How can you say to your brother, 'Let me remove that splinter from your eye,' while the wooden beam is in your eye?

5. You hypocrite, remove the wooden beam from your eye first; then you will see clearly to remove the splinter from your brother's eye.

6. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

THE HYPOCRICY OF JUDGING OTHERS IS PLAIN

Now even religion aside just using common sense as explained the judgmental person usually is the last to perce1ve his own faults or sins. His sin may be ever so great, as our text states, “as large as a beam or log,” but the person is quite unable to see it because he’s so busy hunting the mote or speck of dust in the eye of his brother.

There is nothing which so hinders a person from heart-searching self-examination, nothing which so hardens him in self-complacent pride, as the habit of finding fault with other people. The accuser may be a greater sinner than the people whom he is denouncing yet the very act of denunciation blinds him to his own failing.

EGE: The religious people of Jesus’ day were horrified at the sight of publicans and sinners, but they had much to be ashamed of, much that they overlooked, much they would not see, because of their self-righteousness. Church people of today fall into the same straits. They see the faults of others, but do not see their own. While as shown even those who aren’t devout as shown in these instances where swingers with their trespass from monogamy by religious, monogamous standards certainly have no leg to stand on when it comes to examining the mote in their brother’s eye. Or as we can go on to say comparing the advantages of most religious people with the temptations of the miserable drunkards and harlots whom they denounce, they might well ask whether their pride, uncharitableness, and covetousness may not be the beam which they are not seeing in their own lives. Truly when such actions are part of a person’s nature, he is guilty of the name hypocrite.

THE FUTILITY OF IT

Now, even though hunting for specks while having a log in ones eye is dangerous and hypocritical it’s truly futile – futile indeed.

While there’s a beam or a log in his own eye the critic cannot remove the mote or speck of dust from the eye of his brother. To do so is to perform a very delicate operation. Any obscurity of vision will allow only a bungled attempt that will give much pain and yet will not affect its purpose. In order to be effective in the removal of the speck the beam must go first.

Now though of course I have my own, personal belief’s I insist I’m not preaching nor am I publicly taking sides So what I’m merely doing here is passing on what even though of religious nature has also with the ages withstood the test of logical reasoning. So by now if I still have your attention as a reader, and if I do you’re to be applauded since I realize already I’ve no doubt tried your patience with my lengthy dissertation then let’s go on.

Now concerning the “right to life” contention that “life begins with conception” and so abortion is wrong I’d like to point out from the Caryana: “Each child has an angel assigned by God to be with Him from birth to death.” From birth to death is the key words which means the developing fetus while in the womb has no guardian angel. Now to me this contends life begins at birth with the awakening of the conscious mind to the outside world when a guardian angel is assigned. However that’s just my opinion while in fairness the Catholic rendition continues that “while in the womb the mother’s guardian angel watches over the forming child.” Or “prior to this, the child is protected by the mother's guardian angel.”

Yet if people are rational there is a clear need for legal abortion. Because despite the high esteem in which we all hold life or certainly should. Then if we’re going to be concerned with life it must be all life so there are many factors outside religious ones involved.

The extreme dangers, maiming of the reproductive system, etc. and loss of primarily teen life before Roe vs. Wade from back alley abortions is well known.

Statistics show the vast majority of our domestic social problems can be traced to unwanted children. Crime, welfare, poverty, unemployment, divorce. And true all these problems and many others would be solved if people only had children when they wanted and could afford them, but life doesn’t always work that way and better judgment can often be overwhelmed by passion and heat of the moment. No one is perfect and we all make mistakes, many times with disastrous consequences. To be blunt and it might sound somewhat cold but “kindness is not my first obligation, but truth.” Said the apostle Paul. So if more poor, single mothers were to have chosen abortion over their religious upbringing it would mean far less tax money going to welfare and instead being put into more productive social programs, less poverty, and certainly less crime including high rates of murder in poverty stricken areas. So again if we’re going to consider life as being sacred then with rational and foresight it must also apply to the life already here and not exclusively to life forthcoming. Yet as it always has been since Roe vs. Wade the eternal argument will always continue. While understand Pro-choice principles aren’t only limited to safe and legal abortion, but also the political and ethical view that a woman should have complete control over her fertility and pregnancy. This entails the guarantee of reproductive rights, which includes access to sexual education; access to contraception, and fertility treatments; and as well aside from the right to abortion the legal protection from forced abortion. So individuals and organizations who support these positions make up the Pro-choice movement. So with this it stands to reason anyone who chooses vasectomies, tied tubes, IUDs or any of their variations, condoms, the patch and so on then are Pro-choice. And since the Catholic faith and to my knowledge and research all religions frown on the above equally as they do abortion, though its not so much put forth it’s known many in the religious hierarchy and their congregations even consider such surgeries for prevention of issue of male sperm or release of an egg or eggs for fertilization and use of contraceptives to be a mortal sin and every bit as much as a crime against nature. So interesting isn’t it these faiths support “breeding” and not contraception, and no I’m not forgetting it’s breeding within the confines of monogamous marriage.

BE FRUITFUL AND MULTIPLY AND FILL THE EARTH . . .
Genesis: 1:28

Now I’d like to add “breeders lifestyle” is a very misleading label because it conjures visions of every woman leaving such an event with the beginnings of a zygote (fetus) attached to her uterus and inexorrly this isn’t the case. And why? Well as pointed out above just as with percentages of the chance of pregnancy, along with that imagine the percentages of getting any large or small number of women together who all just happen to be ovulating. Well it’s just not very likely is it? But do breeder parties or like events exist. Most certainly.

Urban dictionary
1. breeding party
A specific type of sex party, common among 20- and 30-something year olds, which is attended by an inordinately high ratio of males to females and is thrown for the sole purpose of getting the female attendees pregnant.

Now after reading the posts leveled at terryforsex I honestly had a hard time believing the folks involved who stated disbelief of such events could be so uninformed? And especially since the most common variety of these from what research has shown me supposedly and purportedly are known to swingers everywhere. Generally as Motel breeding, Breeder parties, “gangbangs” or gangbanging” or numerous other analogies including creampie eating. And this is because nine times out of ten it involves sperm being put in a wife’s vagina by somebody other than her husband. So unless she’s using birth control, and by my researches to be shown here it doesn’t appear the majority of times she is. Then the strong, inherent possibility she’s being bred is present. Also see EG: My wife is addicted to gangbang right here from swingers board.
My wife is addicted to gangbang. What should i do?

Gangbang select from wikipedia
A gang bang or gangbang is a situation in which one individual, either a woman or a man, has sexual intercourse with multiple partners in turn. Originally condoms were used but in today’s practice of it my research shows that’s rarely if ever the case. The term gangbang has often been used interchangeably with gang rape but is now increasingly applied only to consensual sexual behavior in the sexual swinging community. It exists as a specialized form of group sex and sometimes figures in sexual fantasy. It is also the subject of a genre of pornography, complete with its own sub-genres "cream pie gang bang.” An obvious bareback gangbang scenario with pregnancy as a high erotic risk factor, "anal gang bang", "lesbian gangbang", "drunk gangbang" etc. then too, when a man has sex with several women, it’s usually known as a reverse gangbang.

Hence in my research of the above named lifestyles or sub-genres of them I found the term “swinging community” or “swingers” mentioned on many an occasion.

Gangbanging in history

There’s ample evidence the practice of “Orgies,” “breeding parties” or “gangbanging” or any other terminology you care to use which for all intents describes the same thing was known in various cultures in ancient times. For example, the wife of the Emperor Tiberius Claudius Caesar Augustus Germanicus (August 1, 10 BC – October 13, 54) the Empress Messalina of the Roman Empire was particularly famous for enjoying gangbangs while another noble woman named Clodia was accused of it.

Cicero concerning Clodia: "I am not speaking against that woman, but let us suppose that there is another woman, different from her, who gives herself freely to everybody-I mean everybody-who always has a lover to show off; let us suppose that in her garden, in her house, in her villa at Baiae, she gives complete freedom to the pleasures of all; that she goes so far as to maintain young men and to compensate with her largesse for the stinginess of their fathers; let us suppose that this woman is a widow and lives freely; that she is a hussy and lives brazenly; that she is a wealthy woman and lives extravagantly; that she is a slave to her appetites and lives like a whore. Should I consider a man an adulterer if he takes a little liberty when he meets her?" ~Cicero, Pro Caelio, 16.~

As for Messalina ancient Roman sources particularly Tacitus and Suetonius, portray her as insulting, disgraceful, cruel, avarious and a foolish nymphomaniac. Many women of her age and status enjoyed festivities and parties, but the two historians contended Messalina unwisely combined her zest for meeting people with a sexual appetite. A widely reported tale was Messalina’s challenge to a notorious Roman prostitute named Scylla for an all-night sex competition. After each woman had taken twenty-five lovers giving up at dawn Scylla lost the competition, but Messalina saw no reason to stop copulating until well into the morning. It’s said she was exhausted, but not satisfied.

Messalina used sex to enforce her power and control politicians. She had a brothel under an assumed name and organized gangbangs for upper class women along with orgies, multiple men and women for mass sex. Hence since condoms didn’t yet exist (see below) these “orgies/gangbangs were the exact equivalent of one of terryforsex’s breeder parties. Especially when one considers how when there’s no forthcoming obligations or consequences to the man at such an event or even otherwise the desire to impregnate a woman remains to this day one of his strongest natural drives. and there are any number of thoroughly researched treatises and books available on this subject. The book “Sperm Wars” is an excellent book for this, while surely if you’re a man reading this and being honest with yourself you recognize it to be a reality.

Messalina participated much in politics and sold her influence to Roman nobles or foreign notables. While as well she much enjoyed playing the prostitute herself which Juvenal highly criticizes her for in his Satire VI (I’ve included only the first translation by Peter Green):

Then consider the God's rivals, hear what Claudius had to put up with. The minute she heard him snoring his wife - that whore-empress - who dared to prefer the mattress of a stews to her couch in the Palace, called for her hooded night-cloak and hastened forth, with a single attendant.
Then, her black hair hidden under an ash-blonde wig, she'd make straight for her brothel, with its stale, warm coverlets, and her empty reserved cell. Here, naked, with gilded nipples, she plied her trade, under the name of 'The Wolf-Girl', parading the belly that once housed a prince of the blood. She would greet each client sweetly, demand cash payment, and absorb all their battering - without ever getting up. Too soon the brothel-keeper dismissed his girls: she stayed right till the end, always last to go, then trailed away sadly, still | with burning, rigid vulva, exhausted by men, yet a long way from satisfied, cheeks grimed with lamp-smoke, filthy, carrying home to her Imperial couch the stink of the whorehouse.

Now to condom use 1000 BC

Condom use can be traced back several thousand years. It’s known around 1000 BC the ancient Egyptians used a linen sheath for protection against disease.1

100 - 200 AD

The earliest evidence of condom use in Europe comes from scenes in cave paintings at Combarelles in France.2 There’s also evidence some form of condom was used in imperial Rome.3

However 3this condom use in Rome is centuries after the timelines of the above instances so we can be certain neither Messalina’s or noblewomenC she arranged orgies, gangbangs for, nor Clodia’s men used condoms since no such thing yet existed.[/i] So such “breeding parties” they manufactured for themselves or other noble women whether they produced offspring or not, as chance has it either way, Orgies, gangbangs, Breeder parties again regardless of the terminology since by end results it means the same thing certainly did exist in plenty from ancient times and to this day. to confirm this I suggest Meet the Mandingo’s which gives evidence “noble” women and men of today in the form of judges, CEOs, FBI agents, and the affluent might still enjoy “Breeder Parties.”
http://men.style.com/details/blogs/d...teur.html#more

And

'Details' Mandingo Article Not Afraid To Be Servicey

http://gawker.com/news/mandingos/det...cey-250333.php

While as well there’s pornography sites a plenty that feature gangbangs for the express purposes of “breeding.” As a rule these gangbangs/Breeder parties are generally composed of black men breeding a white woman. A clear example of this is.

“Heather’s Gangbang Girls.”
Because it’s a sale site for dvds depicting motel breeder events and I’ve doubts it would pass moderator examination I’ve deleted the url. But there are search engines available.”

Our gangfucks are totally spontaneous, unrehearsed and taped in sleazy motels where young, naïve white girls meet these aggressive niggers for the very first time. Gangs of blacks stop at nothing during their marathon breedings as they try desperately to impregnate these girls on video pumping load after load of black “baby-making” sperm deep into their fertile cunts! None of these girls wanted a black baby but it didn’t stop these niggers from trying to impregnate each one of them. The girls all admit throughout their ordeal they’re on no birth control and knew it was unsafe and irresponsible thing to do. But taking the risk of getting knocked-up by a bunch of nasty niggers filling their fertile wombs with seed was so terribly wrong it only made it more dangerously exciting!

Now don’t blame me for use of the “n” word as that’s how it’s listed at the site.
No doubt to add shock and gravity of what “motel breeding” also known as “black gangbanging” is all about. While at the url listed that has the above caption it shows pictures of each individual woman who participated in a gangbang and the outcome. While certainly “only made it more dangerously exciting! could give a good clue as to the allure of breeding events.

Out of eight, five of the young women allegedly came away impregnated. Now keep in mind to get a two hour flick six to eight hours of sex and breaks as the men replenish their
baby making juices is required.

Brittnay--took her chances, was inseminated endlessly but lucked out
Shayna—likewise
Mellissa—ditto
Heather—IMPREGNATED
Summer—IMPREGNATED
Monique—IMPREGNATED
Danielle—IMPREGNATED
There is another name but the way the page loads it continues to elude.-IMPREGNATED

Now to further my researches into the breeding concept I purchased a pair of these movies and the first one in which Heather’s allegedly impregnated it become quickly obvious even if there’s no script involved there was definitely a “men just out prison” theme and scenario present which the men and woman are basing their lines on. While with the way things were handled also in all probability everyone had been screened and tested for disease.

I say this because here in San Francisco at Club Kiss, probably the finest on-premise swinger club in the city there also is stringent screening of couples while if you fail to go along with it you don’t even get the address to the place. So as in the swinger lifestyle aside from just Heather’s GBG, in all instances of modern day breeding parties I came across similar precautions as occur in swinger lifestyle get-togethers are duplicated.

Now granted though the very slender, white skinned blonde beauty Heather protested insemination at first, as the men fondled and caressed her she soon became so sexually aroused by their attentions she fell helpless to her instincts and natural desires. Then as a black cock was shoved in her mouth and another in her baby chute while she took hold of two more stiff, erect black penis’s as things grew more heated admittedly even while knowing it was in an attempt to impregnate her with a black baby she was soon eagerly consenting-even begging the men to empty their loads in her cunt.. And though it was the lone white man of the group who was first to fill her pussy with semen, then the rest subsequently black men. Because it’s been shown in instances of ovulating women who engaged in multiple acts of intercourse with a large number of men when impregnation occurs it’s regularly the sperm of the second or third man’s that accomplishes it. That armed with the foreknowledge after the men ejaculated again and again in her carnal depths, when a speculum was inserted in her pussy. Then with no resistance from her she was spoon fed the men’s semen or made to suck it from a long clear plastic tube that was inserted deep in her vagina that such taboo as impregnation had indeed been accomplished by one of the black men was I aroused or turned on by the sight and knowledge? Well let’s think a moment, even by my brief description if you’re a man reading this ask yourself what’s going on between your legs right now? And if a woman even if it might, or even might not be to a lesser degree, I ask the same thing.

Now of course being honest with yourself is of the utmost import in this. And if you’re admitting arousal from my description of Heather’s being bred then how much more arousing for those who live such lifestyles. And are they to be condemned for it any more than swingers who live and enjoy such like events though admittedly as they say it’s without the sole intent of impregnation. And this even though from the hundred and likely more posts here on SB where unprotected sex and yes often with more than one man, in which there’s absolutely no mention of birth control use by the woman and certainly not the men the exact same risk of pregnancy’s involved. While again I must maintain the desire in a man to impregnate a woman to this day remains one of his strongest, natural drives.

True it seems likely these women of Heather’s GBG fell to the allure of becoming a part of a “Motel Breeding” event/movie because of the money involved or even the hormonal drive of lustful curiosity that may have overridden clear thinking on the possible ramifications of their actions. And again especially since the breeding act went into six hours of shooting to get a two hour non-stop fuck fest for the DVD, certainly they may have done it, and agreed for all the wrong reasons. And yes though this may seem tragic that doesn’t necessarily mean it is. You see all we’re left with these young women’s lives is that some of them allegedly became pregnant and no additional facts to utilize. Now if we take for granted without facts, and I stress without facts because again all we’re left with here is five women became pregnant and nothing more. Concerning abortion though yes had clear thinking prevailed. And indeed it might have, for without further facts again we have no way of knowing which or if any women might have entered the event determined if she did get pregnant she was going to keep the baby. So if any of them did for all we know if the pregnancies were carried to term the resulting children could well be enjoying a happy life. However if any or even all of them decided abortion was the only recourse left, then for you out there it’s a matter of deciding which side of the fence you sit on. That of Roe vs. Wade and a woman’s right to choose or the side of the right to life foundation. Either way, without further information in the above matters that go beyond our knowledge five women became pregnant if you care to make judgments without those additional facts then all your basing them on is emotion and not complete truth. While face it we all make mistakes in life and none likely more complicated or far reaching than those we make in youth.

Again I’d like to point out the very prefix for this particular lifestyle being “Breeder, Breeding” that though it may confer intent, just the same is misleading because it conjures visions of every woman attending the event leaving with the beginnings of a fetus attached to her womb. But rational dictates otherwise because the likelihood every woman there just happens to be ovulating at the time is absurd as it’d be nearly impossible to get a large group of women together who‘re all ovulating at the same time.

In any case by no way shape or means are “breeding parties” as terryforsex describes, just urban myths some here seem to think they are. Because such parties are real. And again under a broad terminology of names. And because terryforsex enjoys the sexual high of being a total slut while enjoying the fantasy of possibly being impregnated by a man she doesn’t know doesn’t automatically mean if it happens it’ll end in disaster. Because so far, despite her tempting of the fates it hasn’t. And while for some breeder fetishists they enjoy this sort of birth control free intercourse for the high of the sexual risk of pregnancy involved as terryforsex pointed out for others it’s because it’s wanted by the husband and wife for conception because the husband is unable to provide it.

From Cambridge University Press: RE: 2003 Erasmus Lecture Sex and reproduction:

The effective separation of sex (‘in bed’) and fertilization (‘under the microscope’) has already been practiced successfully for the past 25 years by well over one million people – virtually all of them suffering from infertility problems. But why, where and when will fertile people resort to assisted reproductive techniques to become parents?

Well here then available to the couple in which the male is infertile or even for couples who are both fertile at a breeder party is an assisted reproductive technique. as asked about above. And since the resulting child if there is one in the male infertile couple instance is wanted by the couple to fill a place in their heart, regardless it’s from such a thing as a breeder party, where pray tell is the sin in that I ask you? Is there really that much difference between the erotically enjoyable, warm, personal, and natural sex the woman will be having with a man she doesn’t know in order to be impregnated by him while she holds her husband’s hand as without words he urges her on as she pretends the man fucking her is really him. (Not firsthand witnessed, but I’ve heard of this) Or instead a visit to the sterile, cold and impersonal sperm bank and fertility clinic where she’ll lay in the gyno chair or table, her feet in the stirrups as they swab and flush her cervix clean of mucus then feed a catheter through the sphincter to the depths of her uterus then a smaller one through it so they can inject two to five zygotes or if five days old Blastocyst inside her then hope one takes? And if it doesn’t, do the procedure all over again. Yes, you bet there’s a difference. And if in either case a baby is conceived naturally, or in the case of the IV one of the zygotes or Blasrochyst affixes itself in the mother’s womb, yes both parents are going to be thrilled. Hard to say which will be happiest and most contented though-the ones who conceived naturally or ones who conceived so artificially. But the baby will know and benefit from it because it’s well known what affects the mother affects the fetus in her. So the happier the mother, the happier the infant she carries. So really who’s right when by and large the donor in either case for the most part is still anonymous? While so what if attending a breeders party for this purpose isn’t your cup of tea and you’d rather see the cold impartialness of the fertility clinic, because in the end it’s the happiness of the parents who will be raising and providing love for the child that counts and not yours. While how exactly does what they decide is right for them have or affect anything to do with your personal life anyway? And yes as pointed out most all terryforsex’s threads/posts do indeed deal with this common intense, fantasy. The idea of sperm in her pussy put there by a man whose name she may or may not know with what’s likely for her the erotic thrill of the risk of impregnation involved. But let me put something to you. Because for the most part I’ve gathered many of women here have had their share of children and are beyond their child bearing years or have had their tubes tied etc. Well I feel pretty safe in saying the raging hormones of youth are no longer burning in their loins or driving their sexual thoughts. But they apparently still are for terryforsex. And long as she’s enjoying living her fetish of being a complete slut accompanied by the fantasy of being impregnated by a man she’s only just met without actually bringing harm to anyone, especially since she’s not actually conceived from her adventures. Any more than the swingers here who regularly practice unprotected sex have. Or as so far have reported. while lets not forget her husband who she’s mentioned more than once in her other posts that’s apparently equally and consensually involved so it stands to reason they thoroughly understand the inherent risks and responsibilities. Then I don’t believe she should be so eagerly criticized for it. After all, again as in the hundred or more instances of SB posts available here that are attributed to swingers with the instances and information available in them that plainly show aside from intent, impregnation is just as likely to happen as at a breeders event. There also was in a creampie thread here aside from terryforsex saying she’d rather the sperm stayed in her pussy, because creampie eating is a very big part of Cuckoldry, and yes it is. Because in this Cuckoldry, another essentially condom-less lifestyle the wife’s lover must be able to unload his semen in her pussy so in turn she can force her husband to perform cunnilingus on her and suck her lover’s sperm from her cunt. Then often times to add further insult to her husband though it’s a pretty sure bet she’s using it, in some fashion she’ll let on to her husband she’s neglected to use her birth control. While if condoms are used at all, depending on the degree the wife has cuckolded her husband then it’s the rare occasions she’ll allow her husband to fuck her. Because as cuckold protocol holds she’ll put it to him “the only sperm going in my cunt is my lover’s.” So here we have more often than not, “another condom free lifestyle” because nothing insults the cuckolded hubby’s manhood or excites him more than the possibility his wife might soon be carrying her lover’s baby in her womb. And after noting [/i]a huge number of posts here on the swingers board that indicate more men than suspected may well be confirmed cuckolds, or share a “hot wife” arrangement, have an open marriage, or are involved in solo swinging.[/i] which in my further research far as cuckoldry goes I’ve found to be a lifestyle containing an astonishing number of members and far more than I think most have suspected. Here for certain in cuckolding we have another example of a lifestyle that has the heightened erotic stimulation of possible pregnancy being one of the mainstays. And oh, still don’t think so? Then check:

http://www.adultcommunitiesonline.co...ide/index.html

While consider also in the swinger lifestyle all wives still capable of having children who use no birth control in the instance of creampie eating along with the husbands in these threads are admitting to the recreational erotica of a wife practicing unprotected sex with a man other than her husband just as if in a breeding party with all it’s inherent risks of impregnation by him And why? Well let’s face facts, once a husband ejaculates in his wife’s vagina, even though during sex he might have wanted to go down on her afterwards its rare he’s able to because after ejaculation with the passion hormones that fueled the fantasy beginning to fade so does the desire. While because of this men usually can only be passionate and turned on enough to actually go down on his wife and eat her creampie while still erect prior to his ejaculation. So if he’s eating a creampie nine times out of ten it’s because the sperm was put in his wife’s vagina by another man And this has been evidenced and proven thoroughly by numerous threads and posts here on the swingers board. While to further back this up consider “creampie” eating as defined by the cuckold lifestyle and owner of the above listed site, so the following was written by Cuckold Paul:

Cream Pie
I’d say this has been talked about too much if it weren't for how much it turns me and most every other cuckold on! While whether its submission or humiliation licking another man's semen from your wife's pussy is number one on the hit parade. And why’s that? I believe it’s a combination of every male taboo rolled into one:

One-- Men aren't supposed to eat sperm, well, straight men aren't anyway . . . (footnote by Merric.~) Subconscious or otherwise also one of the reasons men have a hard time being able to go down on their wife after having ejaculated in them. For many their Judeo-Christian upbringing and years of heterosexuality along with a lifetime of talking with buddy’s about how wrong and fag like it is to have anything to do with sperm other than shoot it in a pussy, then regardless of how sexually liberated they think themselves without the passion of sex hormones and return of rational this all comes back to haunt them.)

Two-- Men are supposed to guard their wives' chastity/purity with their lives.

Three-- Ejaculating in a woman is a strong symbol of possession, and seeing another man's semen in your wife's most private, intimate place is a clear sign you aren’t the sole or even primary person in her life... or at least in her body.

Four-- If there’s any single thing that "proves" your wife was unfaithful it’s the sight of semen dripping from her vagina when you know you didn't put it there. Pornographers may be able to substitute liquid soap in pictures but when you're face to face with the real thing you know it.

Five-- The only way for that semen to get in your wife was because she brought him to orgasm. So a creampie says, "Not only did she cuckold you, but she did it very well."

Six—The majority of men’s Semen doesn’t taste good. So if you're lucky, it doesn’t taste terrible. And I’ll tell you that licking it up - especially if it’s a large amount - is very, very difficult, and emphasizes the humiliating nature of what your wife is doing to you.

Seven-- If you have to do it in front of the lover while your wife is holding and kissing him, you’ll have your "place" made perfectly clear to all involved - especially if the two of them laugh at your difficulty swallowing all of it!

End by Cuckold Paul

For all these reasons, most cuckolds, Breeder fetishist and as I’ve also found from the SB board alone no small amount of swingers find creampies to be among their most powerful fantasies and most erotic experiences. While again if there’s a creampie a swinger husband or cuckold is going to eat, then pretty much the only way it got there is because the woman involved had unprotected sex with a man other than her husband who’s going to eat it.

Now as for terryforsex and derision of her lifestyle posted here granted we’re all entitled to our opinions whether they’re founded on what’s believed to be facts, half known things, a double standard. (the beam in your own eye as opposed to the mote in another’s) or even ignorance. However I don’t recall terryforsex deriding any of the men here who enjoyed the fetish of creampie eating as being cuckolds or something most monogamous, sexually stolid, straight or vanilla men would consider a creature they’d find stuck on the bottom of their shoe. And why? My guess is likely because of her lifestyle she understands the difference between the humiliation aspect of creampie eating displayed in cuckoldry and instead appreciates for swinger men it’s enjoying the earth shaking orgasms their wives get not just from the physical, but absolutely and utterly the psychological aspect of unconditional love and from it the pussy worship their husbands are giving to them. While from reading the critical posts leveled at terryforsex all I could find was an intense ignorance and lack of knowledge about what her fantasy indulgence truly consisted of or the responsibilities taken after it or even of its intense similarity to the examples of swinger unprotected sex that are available here at SB as compared to breeders that I’ve provided below. Now granted her lifestyle and what it pertains is hypothesis on my part I gathered from her stuttering reply post which to me indicated she was so put off by the retaliatory remarks she felt too disheartened to go into such things. But be that as it may whether it’s in the same context or not like breeders do, unless some form of birth control is being utilized by the women. And in the huge number of posts here I researched concerning this topic of unprotected sex[/i]absolutely no indication was given it was.[/i]) Again along with the few of hundred or more posts concerning unprotected sex in conjunction with the practice of multiple intercourse with a single woman as I’ll presently provide along with creampie eating and many suspected cuckold/hotwife/open marriage/solo swing, all with the wife returning to her husband with the “evidence” in her vagina of her outing with her boyfriend/lover posts here on SB indicate quite the opposite is true, because again as in a breeder fetish whether intention of pregnancy was the goal or not with the information provided in these posts the same risks remain regardless.

Now to get my point across I’ve chosen a small amount of posts I spoke of above from again likely if not easily a hundred or more here on SB. Now some are from a breeder thread and some a standard swinger thread . . .

90% of the time my wife goes bareback which is allot several times a week with other men we meet i love to have sloppy 2nds even 5ths or more feels great and yes i do eat the cream pies occasionally and i am not gay or bi

This is exactly how we feel. We've been fantasizing about this for many years and have talked about it many, many times. We are of the type that feel if we are going to do it, it's going to be all the way the first time out. Just like you said, a group of 2 or 3 (black guys for us) bareback, taking turns enjoying my wife's pussy and then all cumming inside of her. I have no problem adding my cum on top of theirs and am looking forward to the experience should it ever happen.

Yes... and only with select males for good reasons... but with that said- it's a great turn on and lots of fun! I love sliding inside my wife then- she's tight and really wet then... and she becomes more aroused with me wanting more... A definite fetish for us...

If both men are known I love taking seconds or thirds. The lubrication is a turn on and I don't come as quickly. After I come I like to rub the wet pussy and clit and try to bring her to an orgasm.

Want to point out we do it only with our best friends we know since a lot of years.
One of our major turnons also...only with select males...but def a big fetish of **. *****and has turned into one of mine also.

Former g-friend came to my house with a pussy full of a friend of her's cum. As we were fucking I told her that I could tell she had somebody elses cum in her and she was quite surprised that I could tell. After that session I would encourage her to tell me whenever she fucked her friend, where he came and how it felt. we had some pretty interesting sex after that!!!

It’s a real treat to fuck my wife's just filled pussy. Her pussy is so hot and slippery and like one previous poster stated, she usually cums again right away. I don't call it sloppy seconds but prefer "slippery seconds". And I enjoy the occasional creampie tasting before I go in too.

I just love to eat or fuck my wife after she has been filled with a couple of loads. Her favorite is for me to cum in her while the other couple's man cums in her mouth. Then as I deep kiss my wife to share his cum, his lady eats my cum out of her pussy. Then she deep kisses and shares with my wife. Regular cum fest Drives my wife crazy. Only do this with people we KNOW are safe.

Okay, read them all? Now granted I eliminated any names in the posts and from the breeder thread carefully chose only posts that left out mention of impregnation or pregnancy. However what I’d like for you to do now is choose which of the above posts came from the breeder thread and which came from the swinger thread. Ready, begin . . . .
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So are you scratching your head or tugging your chin trying to determine which is which? Because I’d like to point out in these hundred or so threads I went through at no time was there any mention of birth control being used by the wife and certainly not the men. While understand then fully in each post as described there’s actually no difference at all between the swingers threads and the breeders thread. And this regardless if they are swingers going into these things saying “We’re not going into this purposely to knock up my wife.” Saying that with the described conditions above, again found in the hundred or more like posts here at SB doesn’t make it so or mean it’s not going to happen.” So whether the swingers involved went into it with that intention or not, the likelihood of the women involved of getting knocked up under the above posted situations and scenario’s is every bit as likely as a random woman attending a breeder party is. While whether your wife, girlfriend, whoever she is happens to be ovulating at the time or not regardless if it’s a swinger get together as some posts describe above or a breeder party since sperm can remain active and alive inside her for three, some findings indicate up to five days after the fact she can still end up pregnant, so like it or not, in ether event swinger or breeder, under the conditions described, don’t be surprise if it happens and she’s been bred. While also I find it highly unlikely the fantasy of impregnation isn’t there in all these instances because again that’s actually a major force that drives us to perform intercourse.

So still can’t determine which posts are which?
Well it’s confession time because all the posts above were taken from the single thread: Fucking filled pussys. So if you’re being honest here and indeed were scratching your head trying to choose the breeder posts I led you to believe to be present it means consciously you recognized the same conditions from the descriptions provided are present in both a breeder and in these presented cases, the swinger environment.

Now I want to state categorically the likelihood of at least a percentage of the women named in these hundred or more posts are employing some form of birth control is certainly likely. So I’m basing my equation that at least the remaining percentage is not. And in this by utilizing a favored tool often used by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s Sherlock Holmes that’s also a favored scientific tool known as “Occam’s Razor” sometimes called “lex parsimoniae.” That being "All things being equal, the simplest solution tends to be the best one." That since there’s absolutely no mention of birth control being used by the women in what could be such a life altering action, as in again, the hundred or more posts like the ones above the simplest solution must be because they aren’t. So with the information proved in the threads and again hundred or more like posts as shown above and my use of lex parsimoniae. I feel my hypothesis is not without worth or a good degree of validity.

So I ask because the exact same scenario’s described at these swinger get-togethers are what happen at breeder parties if you haven’t come to realize when it comes down to it there’s virtually no difference between such swinger get-togethers and a breeder party other than admission of intention. Because with the information given in the above posts and again hundred or more like them on SB where again there’s absolutely no mention made of the women involved utilizing any form of birth control. Then whether pregnancy is intended or not, again because no man can dictate the courses of nature it’s just as real a possibility for it to happen to those swingers in such posts as it is for those who attend a breeder party. So regardless the fact remains each time you partake of unprotected sexual intercourse, although for some odd reason it might not seem obvious to you, in fact you take the same risks terryforsex does when she enjoys her lifestyle events as I believe I’ve illustrated.

Now aside from that there are scads more threads here on the board stating otherwise how time and again if not concerning pregnancy because of vasectomies, tubes tied. Menopause or what have you that unprotected sex is regularly practiced by many couples here as shown above on faith alone. Generally with a favored and trusted couple who you believe there’s going to be no risk of disease. And hey they’re counting on you for the same thing. But again shit happens. So does that make you all irresponsible? I mean when you dare unprotected sex with others are you thinking about how if still fertile you could end up pregnant or if you do pick up one of many available sexually transmitted diseases then so does your SO. Or how your family will fare while you’re sick. Or what about if you die because of it, what will become of your children? Well it’s highly likely of course you do. So why should such lack of intelligence or caring automatically be conferred on breeders. I mean how could they not be aware of these things since after all it’s right there in front of their face. Granted sometimes it can happen and not just with breeders or swingers but of course vanilla folks too because clear thinking becomes clouded by the passion of the moment. Something I feel pretty safe in saying has likely happened to all of us at one time or another. I mean hell in nineteen seventy-one HIV had yet to make the scene so when in the Navy in my many ports of call never once did I use a condom with any of the women I had sex with. And believe me in the Philippines alone where it was seven of their pesos and some change to one of our dollars at four to five dollars a pop per woman there certainly was a lot of indulgence on my part. While later when I lived a biker lifestyle nor did I or any of the other biker’s I knew use condoms. That was unless in the case of bikers their old lady if they had one wasn’t using the pill. While to my knowledge condom-less intercourse with a prostitute until the advent of HIV even here in the U. S. was a customary thing. So regardless if you care to admit it or not unprotected sex is still unprotected sex and whether pregnancy’s the intention or not doesn’t mean it can’t happen. So whether practiced by those of the breeder, swinger or vanilla world or at least as clearly illustrated by the few of hundreds of instances available at SB concerning swingers shown above. Then again regardless of intent, unless some form of birth control is used on the part of the women in the course of unprotected sex, while as you know even if there is, it’s no prevention for STDs. Then breeder or swinger all instances of unprotected sex as so far exampled here from again the hundred or more like it I found on SB share the same inherent dangers and joys. While to date it seems the threads here at SB just endlessly keep on coming about swinger folks and regular participation in unprotected sex. Yet because terryforsex openly acknowledges her practice of it and what can be the result it’s somehow different from what many here do when as the evidence shows regardless of intent it’s the same thing? No, again as illustrated above by the tiny number of posts taken from again the hundred plus like ones here on SB I’ve provided, sorry but personally I just don’t think so. Because again regardless, unless birth control is used by the women in these instances, and in none of the hundred or so instances I found was there any mention of it so I again site Occam’s Razor, then mortal man [/i]does not have the power to hold dictates over the courses of nature.[/i] Now as an analogy I could say such possibilities as I just named in such instance you good folks so regularly participate in make me sad just as terryforsex’s post apparently made many of you sad. Yet these are statements rooted in emotions and there are extenuating circumstances in both areas that haven’t yet been explored enough for either side to make any carved in stone profound statement because neither side is present at the events and because of it don’t have all the necessary facts available to them to make such a thing.

As to the fact Breeder parties are real or not, as I’ve ascertained and believe I’ve shown they are, for further evidence regardless of what terminology they use to name them because the risk of pregnancy involved is realized by the participants see almost endless sites and pictures of what could properly be called breeder parties in full swing:

http://www.hardcorepartying.com/?nat...NjoxMA,0,0,0,0

And again though there’s a degree of risk of actual pregnancy in gangbangs and breeding parties just as they can in such radical swinger events as described in the tiny sample of posts above that unless they decide the unexpected/expected baby’s a blessing or if not that instead things have gone horribly wrong for them. Then for shortsighted women as exampled in “Heather’s gangbang girls or those like them who don’t have or didn’t consider having available the morning after pill which has an efficiency rating of eighty percent ready and waiting for them this just isn’t always the case. After all for men the attraction to a breeder party is getting his chance at immortality through procreation and to knock up as many women as able as nature intended. Again one of man’s strongest drives to date. And again see the well received and acclaimed book “Sperm Wars” for further documentation of the subject. While for women who attend breeder parties the attraction for her is having as much sperm in her cunt as she can get put there by as many men and as many times as she can take., along with what the breeder wife or lone woman considers to be the highly erotic risk, of one of these men making her pregnant. Again as likely nature intended, and again see the highly acclaimed book, “Sperm Wars” for confirmation evidence through research of this. Now for a lone woman at the party that’s the thrill. While for a wife at the party it’s the same, but combined with the additional risk she might be being made pregnant by a man other than her husband that gets her so hot and turned on. While generally the same risk factor, fantasy gets him off as well. Either that or he’s to busy following his instincts and busting his nuts in the pussy of some other woman at the event with the accompanying fantasy of trying to knock her up to pay attention. And unless conception actually takes place that’s all it is, is fantasy, unless as chance would have it she’s actually ovulating. Because again as rational dictates the likelihood every woman there just happens to be ovulating at the time is absurd since it’d be nearly impossible to get a large group of women together who‘re all ovulating at the same time. Though of course there’s that three to five day window afterwards to be concerned with. While just the same as with the odds of them all ovulating at the same time, the odds they’d all just happen into that window at the same time also are as unlikely. But then also there’s the exception as the husband who brings his ovulating wife for as noted the desire by them she becomes impregnated so they can have a child to call their own. Or else in the case of Cuckoldry the exceptionally, and I do mean exceptionally rare times as found when a wife purposely becomes impregnated by her lover and carries the baby to term to administer the ultimate and yes truly lifelong humiliation to her husband. Yet never in these exceedingly rare cases as pointed out at the site I provided taken lightly or not thoroughly discussed beforehand because indeed the wife and husband are acutely aware it’s something they’ll have to live with the rest of their lives as will the innocent child involved. And seeing how terryforsex seems to have permanently left the swingers board and no longer pms me or answers pms and I’ve found no one else in the breeder genre to interview, regardless I really can’t help but suspect the same protocol is applied.

For the remainder, suffice to say as I’ve provided evidence “Breeder parties” again regardless of what they’re called. “Orgy” “Hardcore partying” “Gangbanging” “Meet the Mandingos” what have you? Certainly have existed since the time of Rome and to the present day and certainly are no myth. So what I’ve found in a certain instance concerning men and women attending say an “inner circle of swingers breeding party.” And no I don’t care to tell you how I know of such a thing, but the “morning after pill” is available to all women participants as a parting gift. And again this is because it’s the risk involved. Then also not knowing whether impregnation has taken place or not for the most part that gives breeder enthusiasts their high. While before anyone screams how immoral that is to take the contraceptive because it’s after the fact I’d like to mention what’s already been prior discussed about “right to life” and “pro-choice” and also point out the morning after pill is the same combination of ingredients as a popular, monthly birth control pill except it’s a much larger dose. And because of it whether the woman takes it monthly one at a time as a birth control or all at once in the form of the morning after pill in both instances each does the same thing. And that’s stop a fertilized egg from affixing itself to the walls of the woman’s uterus. So if you feel it’s immoral for a woman who takes it after the fact, then equally it’s as immoral for a woman who takes itbefore the fact month to month because the end results are identical in every detail.

Now no one is perfect, least of all me because in my early days on the swingers board whether through lack of comprehension of a post or facts given in it I also have been guilty of making a snap judgment and posting a heartless response. So In conclusion I’d like to remind you of the swingers world, as quick as some of you are to so readily condemn the lifestyles of others there are countless political groups, religious organizations and millions of people the vanilla world over out there who are as ready to condemn yours. And as you know this often stems from their motivation to remain totalitarian in charge of things or because of utter ignorance and adherence to only what they’ve been taught and raised with as being the reason they remain so blind to the enlightened knowledge you so much take for granted. So instead of so quickly condemning the lifestyles of others I ask instead you take the time to treat it with the same compassion, desire to learn and understand it, as you treat your own with. Not too terribly a big thing to ask I think, do you?

Anyway I’ve put in my dollars worth and truly didn’t set out to write a veritable book or offend anyone, and sincerely hope I didn’t. And certainly I want you to understand clearly I’m not passing judgment on anyone here because being a human being with human failings that’s not for me to do. While personally I agree whole heartedly with the lifestyle philosophy so in all I honestly all I set out to do here was point out my personal giving’s and misgivings about SB and that’s all. And this is because early on as pointed out I learned I’d better try and thoroughly research a subject before commenting on it and especially lately try best as able to be considerate of others feelings. And this is something I didn’t find at all on this and many other threads among as rumor has it are supposed to be some of the most sexually knowledgeable and understanding people on earth. So hey, why not make that rumor a truth? Anyway I think this is probably my SB swansong and as terryforsex seems to have done think I’ll likewise take a sabbatical from the swingers board. Truly I love, respect and admire you all. And certainly this applies to the independence everyone here has shown by their departure from the dogma of monogamy. So despite my rant please know I wish no one any ill. While if you actually stuck to the very ending of this, what turned out to be more of a project than I set out to write certainly I applaud your interest and endurance so my best wishes and hopes to all of you.

Merric