[Chicup]

Well ironicly we are having some swinging friends over for a non-swing family night tomarrow. We met them while we were both mostly newbies, hit it off, and have been great friends (with some rough spots) for many years now.

On the down side, we all agree this was a 1 in a million bit of luck we found each other.

Right stage in life, right area, right mindsets, right looks, etc.

We had hoped by now, after 6 years of on and off swinging that we would have several couples like this, or at least a few.

We don't. Despite all the 'we love to be friends' types, it seems the standard times we play with a couple is two.

I think the problem is that sometimes people are great people, you hit it off, BUT you don't have what it takes to be friends. You don't have shared experiances beyond swinging. This means that just because you could be friends on paper, that 'spark' of friendship isn't there. I just don't think a true friendship can be founded on sex alone.

In our case, our only true 'friends' in swinging, the husband and I shared a hobby, so we did a lot of that together. This gave us things to talk about that didn't involve how to please each others spouse sexualy. This made us also get together as a couple more frequently. I'm sure if we didn't share a hobby our friendship would have ended quite a while ago.

Now for a while we both slowed down our hobby (note I'm being vague for privacy heh) but by then our friendship had been established enough that it didn't matter.