[iapr]

I'll throw in a little different perspective, from your long detailed initial post and your continued discussions with them it is apparent that this is wearting on you for one degree or another. ask yourself this, is it really worth all the headache and drama? She herself said you could move on if they/she wasn't doing it for you.

Here's putting it bluntly, a gal that wants to full swap with you will wrap her legs around you and breathe a hot breath into your ear telling you she wants you then she will grab your ass and pull you inside of her...This chick ain't doing that and alll the nicey-nice talk of soft swapping and comfort levels ain't gonna change that. If she wants you she wants you and if she doesn't she doesn't. She may like you and think you are an awesome guy but if she wanted your shaft she would be riding it as we speak.

There are a lot of people out there and some of them will be on more equal footing with everything and things will flow much more smoothly and naturally than what they are with this couple.

This doesn't mean that they are bad people or that you have to stop liking them or thinking fondly of them. What I am suggesting is that you do not invest any more emotional energy or time in them if they aren't accomplishing what you want from a swinging relationship.

This isn't a bad situation and this isn't horror story by any means it is just very hard to find a 4-way situation where all 4 people click together equally. Enjoy it for what it was then move on and look for another couple. This is all about a journey and the process not an event.