"one example of this sort might be me. i allow my girlfriend to have sex with others if she wants and we don't really have many boundaries. the first point is that i wish my girlfriend to enjoy sex the best it could be. second, it really turns me on to watch and hear about her having sex with others. i may feel left out sometime, but that's another topic. "
And that's exactly what I'm talking about Peter. It's NOT another topic. It's THIS topic. It's NOT about the pleasure you get watching her... I like to watch my wife have sex too. Pretty much all full-swingers do. It's that YOU are NOT allowed to have a similar experience.
I am going to go out on a limb and suggest that this type of situation is common among MEN who WANT to swing, BUT will settle for watching, and WOMEN who DON'T want to swing, BUT like having permission to have sex with other men, free and clear.
Even if this is technically swinging because of the non-monogomous sex, it is not in the spirit of the lifestyle as we have come to understand it.
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