Re: How intimate is too intimate? Personally, I really don't like to kiss unless it is a deep one. The tongue-touching in mid air isn't all that exciting for me. I want to get turned on, and the best way to do that is to do things the way you like to do them with your SO.
Totally understand your concerns about the condom issue. You'll have to come to grips with it sooner or later. I still espouse that swingers are "cleaner than the clergy", so we don't worry about "accidents" much, not like in the beginning of our journey.
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