Hi everyone I have been reading all about this and i know what really happened, I was there. We didn't even know thier was a problem until we got a letter left in our mailbox. He didn't even have the courage to come and talk with us about how he felt. It is easy for people to make snap judgements and give advice especially when what they are being told is only half of the story and full of embelishments and half truths on top of that! The fact of the matter is, the night before she "played" with my husband, apparently unwillingly, but NOT what she told him when he asked her "are you sure you want to do this and she said yes". Her apparent change of heart was because the night before my husband talked with her about her desire to play openly for at least and hour and she told him she 'wasn't ready". When she told him she wasn't ready, he told her he was perfectly ok with that and did not want her to do anything she didn't want to do. Fact is he didn't really care either way and he told everyone that. When he found out she told him she didn't want to play he took her home the next morning and put her into tears for several hours because he was so worried that if she didn't play he wouldn't be allowed to play with me anymore. Even after she did an apparent change of heart the next night my husband still asked if she wanted to play and she told him she wanted to. He gave her every chance to say no and even knowing that he made sure the door was open and unlocked while they were playing and the fact is during the 15 or 20 minutes he played with her, with his hands only, didn't even fuck her, me and her husband walked in and out 3 times. It was NOT a behind closed door thing as he would like people to believe and he all but insisted she play with my husband even after my husband told him he didn't care either way!
I think true friends can work out anything if they are willing to talk about whatever the problems are. They never gave us that chanch. If they had we would have said ok we would rather have you as good friends then to have sex. My hubby doesn't need anyone else. He goes around telling everyone that I am trying to fuck him to death

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As for what I said about sex with the other well sorry to say it is true I found it boaring most of the time. In fact while I was on him one time he said "she is getting bored" the only difference being he used my name. He does not take the time to try to really figure out what a woman wants. My husband even offer to help him by telling him things that he could do or say. But he didn't really want that help.
Now if they were feeling so used and abused why is it that the night after all the bad stuff happened they (he mostly) had no problem comming to our house to fuck me? He had not been able to get me off and had tried many many times, so my husband talked me into an orgasam while he fucked me.. but yet they were so used that they can no longer be our friends.
If anyone has been used its has been us. We befriended these people, welcomed them into our home, my husband, in his words, shared his most precious belonging with him, me. He was willing to help this man figure out what it is he doesn't understand about how to please a woman. My husband showed great respect for his wife's wants without ever forcing himself on her and only after she told him she wanted to play with him did he do anything and then just enough to pleasure her. After that he told her he understood her feelings and thought it best to take "baby steps" with it for her sake. This is a pure simple case of a man that has been allowed for years to play with other women and not having to deal with the feelings his wife probably felt that when he finally was put in a position of having to share her with someone else in order to keep getting what he wanted desperately (me) he found out his ego couldn't handle the fact that another man could get his wife off four times in 15 minutes just with his hands. He is having real issues dealing with knowing that there is another man that understands women so much more than him, even his own wife. He has lashed out at us through this site and in all honesty, it is just what I would expect someone to do when they are too much of a coward to be honest and truthful about their feelings. Personally I think taking this approach to dealing with his own insecurities is a childish immature way to make himself feel better about his own shortcomings but in reality, who gives a shit? There are four people that know the truth about what happened and sadly one of them feels the need to lie about it just to make himself feel better. We all know the truth and therefore will not lose any sleep over this situation other than over the loss of someone we hoped would turn out to be really good friend (his wife). This man is an egotistical, self serving, self centered prick. Those were my husbands words about him almost a week before all this happened but my husband still kept and open mind and wanted to give them a chance to prove he was wrong. It really sucks when your husband can say "I told you so" when he warned us about this man's real agenda and it wasn't to have us as real friends. Its was all a ruse on his part to keep fucking the first woman he ever met that was too much for him. I was a challenge to his ego and ability so much so that he felt it necessary to get viagra to perform. Unfortunately viagra can't teach a man how to pleasure a woman. He failed at being a friend, he failed at pleasuring me and I'm pretty confident he fails at pleasuring his own wife. Shakespear once wrote a very famous line in a play that applies to this situation extremely well.... "methinks thou dost protest too much" . Just food for thought all you swingers out there in the internet world. Is it possible that a man could be so distraught over his own lack of abilities that he would lash out at someone just to make himself feel better? Gotta wonder? I will not post anything else on this matter because as far as we are concerned we are better off without fake friends. I'd rather die alone than in a room full of pretentous jerks like this man.