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Originally Posted by Concupiscence

I would think the authors are going to piss off a HELL of a lot of women who go to the article to find out about it. Many people assume that Wikipedia is the definitive resource for information and often go no further in their research, I seriously doubt most people would even read the "talk page."

Well right, that's why we should contribute. We're the people who know about these things. There isn't a dividing line between "the authors" and us, we are the authors. Wikipedia becomes definitive through people like us contributing to the articles, and my objection to the current state of a lot of those articles is that they were obviously written by Internet nerds who see swinging through the lens of porn videos. That section in the group sex article about how people only have group sex in pornography, and not in real life? I mean come on..

The "talk page" for each article is the equivalent of this forum, where people can discuss the entry behind the scenes before making actual changes to the article.

Originally Posted by Concupiscence

The term is archaic, condescending and NOT indicative of what the lifestyle is about, from what I have seen on this board. Am I making a mountain out of a molehill? That term just irritates me.

No I think you're contributing something really useful, and it's true that the term "wife swapping" isn't very common any more. It hasn't been since I got into swinging and I can't imagine ever using that term around swinger friends with a straight face.

I took a look at the "wife swapping" portion of the "Swinging" article to see if I could rework it to properly represent reality, but it looks to me like the current text on the subject is already appropriate:

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

Swinging is sometimes called wife swapping, but this term is now relatively archaic, due to the misogynistic implications inherent in this phrase. A more common term is simply The Lifestyle, as it is becoming increasingly referred to in contemporary culture.

Somebody, apparently from here, contributed to the discussion on coercion, thanks for that! The entire section on "Objections to the Swinger Lifestyle" seems very similar to Julie's "What are the Risks?" thread. I'm looking at cleaning the whole section up and including some of that wisdom.