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Originally Posted by WesternSwing

I beg to differ here. Single guys bring allot to the swinging community because for many of us a MFM is one of the great aspects of swinging.
This is the point. Too many treat our wives like playthings that are just there for the taking; something to use, abuse, and forget. The good ones really stand out in the Lifestyle and the bad ones pass through almost unnoticed except for a couple of raunchy emails in the inboxs of couples.

I can say that without a doubt the best experiences we've had with single males have been those that were married before or were in the lifestyle when they were married because they have been on both sides of the fence. And we'll invite them into our bedroom anyday. They are great. But, single guys get the bad rap because the majority of them are lecherous. We wish more were better mannered. But in all fairness we give all of them a chance, read all of their profiles and respond to all of their emails.

Mr. WS

I agree with Mr. WS here. It's true that many single people - men AND women - just don't get it. Typically, the ones that don't get it do not have any significant experience with long term committed relationships either. However, the ones that do get it have an important place in swinging. I don't feel that "real" swinging is only for couples; it's just easier when you're a couple.

JnCC, I think perhaps I had you pegged wrong! You do have a bit of an idealist streak in you. While it's true that ultimately it is the responsibility of individuals to control their own actions, the reality is that their classless actions leave a negative impression. One can't help but start to see a pattern develop where the high quality single guy with class is the exception...not the rule. This is why you end up with "No Single Males" policies at clubs. It just comes down to numbers. While there are some single guys we'd all LOVE to have in the clubs, you have to have the policy in place to irradicate the pest problem. So, it makes more sense to me for "good" single guys to act as advocates, giving these other guys a much-needed clue, thereby increasing your numbers. Because the fact remains that, while it's not fair, there are more rotten apples in the barrel than good ones, and it becomes too easy to just say "Oh forget it!" than dig around looking for one.

Is it possible to actually accomplish this? Is that realistic? I guess not. But then that's where you see my idealism come shining through. I guess what I mean is that you can't really say, "Not my problem," because like it or not, these boneheads make life more difficult for you as a single male. It's not that hard to become jaded by bad experiences with the wrong kind of single person, and that goes for everyone including the couples you want to attract.