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Originally Posted by PrivateDance42 I realize there are proponents of the view that the only form of 'sex' is intercourse - and that oral play and genital touching don't qualify as sex - I just don't happen to agree with that view. |
I agree with you, but also with valley here.
The boundaries between hard and soft are also very personal. I didn't made the distinction before either, and oversimplified referring to penetration.
Perhaps the mistake here is to confuse sex with sexuality, we often use to former to refer to the second. As swingers we share our sexuality with others, this may or may not involve sex. For example, two couples may meet to have sex in the same bed without swapping, they would be sharing their sexuality without sharing sex properly speaking.
A couple could like to be seen by single males while having sex, sharing their sexuality with him, while he enjoys his own vouyerism (and perhaps jack off).
I believe on both scenarios, the involved ones are swingers and this is properly a swinging activity.
As a male, I would be up to be such third one enjoying my voyeurism this way, as I enjoy the arousing game of watching each other masturbate. It also could be something sexual that doesn't imply penetration, like limit myself to masturbate or give tonge to my partner, where the enjoyment comes from realizing how much pleasure I can provide, from being in control of the peace and the amount of pleasure my partner is getting, and not from my sexual (phisical) pleasure, one I know I'll get later on, for sure "taking adventage" of the previous arousal and enjoyment.