[mystic]

Originally Posted by Alura

Thanks for the additional input, Mystic. It makes your situation a lot clearer.

I think you need Toastmasters International. They are a civic club dedicated to improving one's communication skills, improving self-confidence, etc. Here's a link to their website: http://www.toastmasters.org/ On the left, near the top of the first page, you'll find "Find a Club." I didn't know your zip code so I didn't look to see if there's one in Windsor.

Forget the clubs and bars. You don't seem to enjoy them at all and if you meet a woman there, you'll probably find that she does like them. Such a difference of opinion, right at the start, would not bode well for a relationship. She may also have an alcohol problem you don't need to deal with.

Now, if you find a woman at Toastmasters, chances are she's there for the same reason you are and will understand you quite well.

There is also a professional training course called The Dale Carnegie Course. (Dale Carnegie wrote How to Win Friends and Influence People.) They teach the same things. I took the course when I was in my twenties and found it helped a lot. I think it's more expensive than Toastmasters, but you'll probably get to where you want to be a lot faster.

Keep us posted!

Mr. Alura

Thanks! I found a club here in windsor that is a bus ride away. I'll email the main person and talk to them about it to see if it's something they can help me out with. It seems to be business focused. I guess the skills can be transferable, but I'm more interested in learning everyday social skills, like small-talk, when to use humour and how, knowing how to react and what to say, how to lead a conversation, etc. I'm going to ask those kind of questions to that person to see if they have anything like that. I don't really care about the costs. Money is not a big deal for me. I just want some help. Thanks.