 Re: Wife say's no way?
T. Hun
Actually, I don't think VegasLee was insinuating that you were here to cheat, just pointing out the obvious - many men get into it for the variety of sexual experience.
I took his point to mean that your marriage is far more important than an unfamiliar vagina - and in that, he is 100% right. Having an open-minded wife, I've had the pleasure to experience swinging - and to get the ocassional "strange". What I have learned is that the reality isn't quite the fantasy and if I had to choose my marriage over swinging - the choice would be an easy one. Should you ever get the chance to play around in the lifestyle, you'll see the same thing.
That said - the lifestyle IS a lot of fun, and some of the folks you meet can be - frankly - mind blowing.
As far as getting your wife involved, Lee is giving you great advice: find out why she is saying "no". What are her issues with it? Morality? Jealousy? Insecurity? Knowing where she is gives you a place to start.
I don't agree with Cafe, really... Putting a person in the middle of the lifestyle doesn't guarantee (assuming they have a pulse) that they will get into it. Swinging is an intensely personal decision that demands a lot of discussion, understanding and time. This is about you guys - not the "atmosphere" of swinging.
Spoomonkey
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