[VegasLee]

Thought this might be the right thread to post a conversation that took place with some friends during convention.

Most swingers seem to travel in "packs". They have a group of friends that they get together with and party. Committed friends?

6 or 7 years ago our group consisted of about 15 couples and 15 single guys. One of the single guys works for us at convention and he brought it up.

Out of the "old group" there is only two of the other couples besides Laura and I that are still together and/or swinging.

There is still about six of the single guys around that we used to and still do party with also.

After talking to him and looking at the results of our years in this has to make me wonder about the "committed" part with many people anymore.

One thing we noticed is that the ones of us that are still together are "old school". Swinging is about sex to us. We are not in it to make new life long friends or build some sort of relationship. (dinners, dancing, bar-b-q's, bowling) Sex. If we become friends then great but we don't set out looking for anything more then some fun with other consenting adults. The rest of the group where the "relationship builders." Guess maybe they worked so hard at building relationships with others they forgot to take care of their own.

The day I look at this Lifestyle as more then sex for fun is the day I get out of it. Laura is to important to me to take a chance of screwing up our relationship by thinking this Lifestyle is more then it really is or should be. My relationship is with her, I don't need anymore then that.