Lots of good points both ways. We're sort of like Alura and her husband though. We just spend most of our time together, just the two of us. We do enjoy close friends and, with close friends, we just don't think we could swing. Too many potential problems that they might have and blame on us. But, to have a special couple who we all understand each other's history in swinging and desires for further activities would be wonderful. And, then, a friendship before any sexual activities would be a wonderful way to start out. I'd really like to find, slowly establish compatibilities and chemistry first, then become very good friends between..., all four. Then, take our time and after everyone is completely comfortable begin exploring. I think this could be a very nice long term friendship. And, Alura, this kind of friendship could be occasional but would certainly be open to a spontaneous opportunity too!