If we went by what you are saying, we could say someone who is raped while unconscious should be held partially responsible for the attack because she got that drunk. Sorry but there is no situation where this kind of activity can be approved of or allowed, regardless of the mental state of the person at the time of the activity.
Um, no, I didn't read it the way you did. The victim is not to be blamed, but I would hope the person who was raped might learn that bad things can happen when you are unconscious and not to do it again except after assessing how safe the situation is. The world is not a safe place...we all know that.(???) My point here is that they all need to learn from this. Even the wife made the mistake of feeling safe unconscious and maybe she wouldn't do that again....I sure wouldn't! Mistakes do not equal blame, IMO.
As for themonster making true personal attacks, I don't see it that way BUT I have seen others (on a different board) take attacks against what some see as the logic in their posts personally. When feelings on a subject run hot, showing the lack of logic (that might be seen that way by another poster) FEELS like an attack and it's pretty hopeless. So others don't see it as a personal attack, maybe there is a different way to phrase the way themonster's logic is different from other posters? (I know, kid gloves are boring but there has to be a way to show your view of the logic posted without more than one person seeing it as an attack...I struggle with making my view understood without anyone feeling attacked).
EvilMJ I did rather hope we would be able to at least see a few areas here we agreed on. Communication takes work to fine tune each item and even just understand for sure where the other person is coming from. While we disagree in some, it's not surprising we can agree in others.
I like Propel but diet soda of any kind will do as well.... I shy away from the ones with Lemon or Lime cuz so far none have tasted good to me...now add cherry flavor....
